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Re:Ask HN: Are you ok? by ibejoeb on Thursday September 12, 2019 @11:46AM (#20952810)
Guess it depends on how grey. If you saw garage tinkering turn into a new industry, it was probably fantastic. If you came up in the already industrialized times, a job's a job, right?

From my perspective I'd say that programmers, in general, have it pretty good, as jobs go.

That doesn't mean a programmer is going to be happy. You just might not be happier doing anything else, either, and you might even dislike it more. Imagine punching a clock, which is practically unheard of in the western software industry...

Re:Ask HN: Are you ok? by hazeii on Thursday September 12, 2019 @12:59PM (#20953747)
It's been good to me (my first home computer was a Z80 with 768 bytes of RAM, my first pro job was to go onsite and sort a blown bulb in a paper tape reader - that should say how grey :) ).

Punching in and out isn't so bad (I've done it), it's probably gone out of fashion because then people would get paid for all the hours they work :)

What seems wrong nowadays is how exploited workers are (and not just programmers).

Re:Ask HN: Are you ok? by cicciop on Thursday September 12, 2019 @01:00PM (#20953756)
> If you saw garage tinkering turn into a new industry, it was probably fantastic.

Probably, probably not. Maybe you know people who went on to became multibillionaires, whereas you're still tinkering and broke. I feel like I missed so, so many boats, and am in no position to catch the next one even if I could recognise it.