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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by wbl on Thursday September 12, 2019 @11:06AM (#20952295)
Spying is part of life. We do it, they do it, everybody foes it.
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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by Udik on Thursday September 12, 2019 @11:20AM (#20952462)
When was the last time that British or German spies were caught spying on the US president? And even in that case, the relationship between the US and Israel is a unique one: as one swears to be the best friend ever of the other, while enjoying lavish funding and unwavering political protection. While the president of the US can accuse people who vote for the opposition to be disloyal to Israel. That is, disloyal to a foreign country.
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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by TKWasRight on Thursday September 12, 2019 @12:15PM (#20953225)
That is where one issue where you'll see some agreement between the two parties...unending commitment and funding for Israel...it seems like Israel is making out like bandits from this one-way "relationship"
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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by henryfjordan on Thursday September 12, 2019 @02:26PM (#20954686)
How about the other way around? The US got caught spying on Germany a while back

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-usa-spying-idUSKC...

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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by nradov on Thursday September 12, 2019 @11:47AM (#20952828)
The UK is part of the "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance and as such has no real need to spy on the US president. I would assume that Germany is spying on the US but just hasn't been caught (at least not publicly).
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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by Udik on Thursday September 12, 2019 @12:02PM (#20953042)
> The UK is part of the "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance and as such has no real need to spy on the US president.

Because belonging to the "five eyes" means they get to hear the official and private conversations of Trump for free?

And since the answer is "no, of course not" your argument is completely irrelevant.

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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by nradov on Thursday September 12, 2019 @12:15PM (#20953218)
You missed the point. If the UK gets caught spying on the US president then they're out of Five Eyes. That would be a much greater loss than anything they could gain through such spying.

Germany has much less to lose.

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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by Udik on Thursday September 12, 2019 @12:22PM (#20953329)
And Israel has nothing to lose from the US?

(Apart from the fact that you're obviously trying to change what you said here, as you wrote "the UK has no need to spy".)

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Re:Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near th... by partialrecall on Thursday September 12, 2019 @01:17PM (#20953929)
> "And Israel has nothing to lose from the US?"

Honestly? Probably not. Obviously they get a lot from the US, but given past outcomes what are the chances they lose that support no matter what they get caught doing? A huge proportion of Americans have an unflinching fondness for Israel. For some evangelicals, support for Israel is even seen as a religious imperative.

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