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Re:Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism by skohan on Thursday September 12, 2019 @10:32AM (#20951875)
Solving the problem of over-tourism is different than raising the price of travel overall. When talking about over-tourism, we're only really talking about a few thousand places which attract so many tourists that they cannot function in a healthy place. If you increased the price of tourism in those select places, then yes, you might have the unfortunate outcome that only upper-middle-class people could visit Paris in May, but all those other people could go to smaller cities in central France which are still full of culture to experience, and might stand to benefit a lot from increased tourist revenue.

But maybe I am a bit biased because I like to visit obscure places anyway.

Re:Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism by el_cujo on Thursday September 12, 2019 @10:40AM (#20951976)
That's true, I guess I'm conflating "overtourism" specifically with a wider push discouraging people from travel to decrease carbon emissions. You make a fair point, there is plenty of the world left to experience beyond the big hubs like Paris and Rome.
Re:Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism by graeme on Thursday September 12, 2019 @12:44PM (#20953550)
Look at it this way: why is the desire of today's middle class to travel by air more important than the survival of civilization tomorrow?

Travel imposes heavy costs on the world, in its current carbon based form. It's only affordable because we pass these costs on to the future.

Re:Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism by skohan on Thursday September 12, 2019 @01:00PM (#20953764)
It's not just the desire to travel by air, it's the economics. When I first moved to Germany I looked into doing a few trips by train, but the flights were much cheaper.
Re:Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism by magduf on Thursday September 12, 2019 @02:20PM (#20954610)
That definitely sounds like a failure of regulation. Taxes should be levied, and probably also subsidies put in place (from those taxes), so that train travel is cheaper than air travel. Train travel doesn't require nearly as much energy as air travel, per passenger.
Re:Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism by graeme on Thursday September 12, 2019 @02:57PM (#20955050)
Right. OP was arguing we shouldn't price in externalities because it would conflict with the desire to travel by air.