Re:Compensation in 2019 – new grad tech offers
by zerr on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @06:37PM
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20s year olds are burning out 80h per week until their health allows and until they are replaced by another batch of 20s after ~10 years. Meanwhile, teachers and researchers enjoy their relaxed and stable lifestyle for the rest of their lifes. In fact, there are lots of candidates fighting for such relaxed permanent positions in academia, which is ruled by nepotism and protectionism, unfortunately.
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Re:Compensation in 2019 – new grad tech offers
by tidepod12 on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @06:40PM
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I get your point, but teachers hardly "enjoy their relaxed and stable lifestyle". Professorships at universities may be different, but elementary/middle/high school teachers often work long, long hours, suffer from burnout, make low money (low as in ~$30-40k/year), and more recently, there is a trend that a lot of them are ending up in therapy to cope with the teaching conditions.
Re:Compensation in 2019 – new grad tech offers
by froindt on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @06:47PM
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The path to tenure is publish or perish. I don't know specific hour commitments, but at an R1 university, you're looking at 4-7 years of long hours with a risk that you won't get tenure. And unless you bring in BIG money or work in a super HCOL area, you probably won't ever make 200k/year.
Re:Compensation in 2019 – new grad tech offers
by mattkrause on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @08:10PM
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4-7 for the PhD alone, plus a few more years as a postdoc, plus the run-up to tenure (another 4-5 years).
None of these are particularly stable or relaxing.
Re:Compensation in 2019 – new grad tech offers
by mattkrause on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @08:08PM
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> researchers enjoy their relaxed and stable lifestyle
A few faculty with tenured, hard-money jobs might be able to kick back and relax, but those positions are the unicorns of academia.
Everyone else is scrapping to bring in money, just so they can keep their jobs. A lot of places, especially medical schools, expect faculty to cover most of their salary from external grants (~15% of which get funded). I would bet a lot more grad students are burning the midnight oil than FAANG engineers too.