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Re:The Plot to Assassinate Orwell by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:04PM (#20935897)
Excellent post.

One nit: The American Revolution was led by elites, if by "elite" you mean "wealthy and influential". But it was not led by elites, if by "elite" you mean "nobility". In that sense, it was quite anti-elite.

Re:The Plot to Assassinate Orwell by duxup on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:43PM (#20936100)
>"wealthy and influential"

To me that would qualify as elite. Not sure how much local nobility there was in the area, but certainly the folks leading were the local elites IMO.

Re:The Plot to Assassinate Orwell by dragonwriter on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @09:23AM (#20939836)
> But it was not led by elites, if by "elite" you mean "nobility"

It was led by the landed elites, which didn't happen to generally have titles of nobility in the colonies, because the evolution from a feudal to a capitalist property structure had progressed pretty far before the US was colonized.

OTOH, the difference between a slave estate and an English feudal estate is mainly that the master of the former has even greater power over and less obligation to the subjects, so the difference between the elites you are distinguishing may be even less substantive than it seems at first glance.