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Re:Uber lays off 435 people by r29vzg2 on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @06:38PM (#20934614)
While you're not wrong about most of this. uChat is actually built by a pretty large team

https://eng.uber.com/uchat/

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by spookthesunset on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:04PM (#20934802)
> uChat is actually built by a pretty large team

Which is even more scary. Why isn't uber laying all these people off and paying cash money for a real chat application? What competitive advantage does uber have maintaining a chat application?

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by segmondy on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:32PM (#20935010)
They might have to pivot into a chat company
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by JohnJamesRambo on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:18PM (#20935969)
Only profitable if they can ever find a way to make the chat self-driving.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:56PM (#20936162)
Group chats all ready are:

You can take your hands off completely, even go and do something else, read a book, write an email, book some flights, and the chat will drive itself ... somewhere.

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by toomanybeersies on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @12:56AM (#20936672)
With more and more chat and email apps offering auto-generated/suggested replies (e.g. what Gmail offers) we're on our way there.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by _pmf_ on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @05:18AM (#20937980)
I might actually hire an Uber for the express purpose of having someone to talk to. In Germany, taxi drivers were often former "German studies" or Philosophy students who did not find a job, so it was kind of guaranteed that you'd have a competent, honest communication partner (albeit left leaning).
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by chosenbreed37 on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @05:31AM (#20938042)
I think that's brilliant. I'm curious as to why it is not regarded as proper job. I don't think it's unique to Germany though. I think it is as honorable an occupation as any. And for the philosophical types it might actually be quite a good occupation as it may not be as taxing on the mind (apart from the time they spent thinking on their favorite subjects). That frees them up to study, research and write in their spare time. Secondly I'm curious as to why they tend to be left leaning...
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by sdan on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @08:56PM (#20935548)
"Uber Chat -- because that's one thing you didn't know you needed!"
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by vadym909 on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:40PM (#20936081)
Why doesn't Uber spend less on Engg and pay more to their drivers- which may actually help its business.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by icebraining on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @02:51AM (#20937253)
If they fired 1000 engineers, at $250k/year each, that would come to about $1.2/week more for each monthly active driver.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by fuzz4lyfe on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:21PM (#20934937)
Preventing engineers who are working on it from working at the competition?
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by echelon on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:37PM (#20935062)
That's pretty stupid. If this was truly their strategy, they're just raising everyone's costs. They can't out-compete Google at this game.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:56PM (#20936166)
Google has a chat app?

What's it called this week?

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by siddarthd2919 on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:15PM (#20934886)
How is Slack not suing Uber for uChat? The images on the link look like an exact copy.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by a13n on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:47PM (#20935136)
On what grounds would they sue? Not only is it completely legal to copy a competitor's design (in most cases), Uber isn't selling this to other companies.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by 8ytecoder on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:00PM (#20935874)
I don’t understand why the above user is getting downvoted to oblivion by people who don’t understand legalities. Trade dress[1] is a form of intellectual property. This is what prevents a company from copying a competitor down to the pixel. Apple and Samsung fought an infamous and long legal battle over this. [2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_dress

[2] https://revisionlegal.com/trademarks/lessons-trademarking-tr...

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by infinite8s on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:57PM (#20936170)
It only matters for product you sell (hence the reference to consumer confusion). Ubers chat sounds like it's solely for internal use.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by spiznnx on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @08:50PM (#20935515)
uChat is a fork of Mattermost, which looks like an exact copy too.

https://mattermost.com/

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by FDSGSG on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @12:42AM (#20936621)
You think Slack came up with that design? Hah.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by Meekro on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:19PM (#20934922)
Check out some screenshots of Discord, that basically looks like "Slack with a dark theme."
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by redwall_hp on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @12:47AM (#20936637)
And they all look like any generic IRC client with fatter margins and some other 2010+ fluff.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by bagels on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:20PM (#20934930)
Would need to sue Discord too.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by tozeur on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @03:25AM (#20937426)
The post says they used an open source chat core called Mattermost.
Re:Uber lays off 435 people by yitchelle on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @05:04AM (#20937914)
Only companies with mega deep pockets (to pay the real winners ie the lawyers) would engage in these type of tom foolery.

I am talking about Samsung and Apple here..

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:58PM (#20936180)
Constrained solution space > all chat apps look the same.

Except Snapchat, I still can't work out what that's about.

Re:Uber lays off 435 people by xxxpupugo on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @07:15PM (#20934888)
Wow...that is pretty wasteful