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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by NikolaNovak on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @09:47AM (#20928108)
While I agree in general, in specific, a significant proportion of Uber drivers I've used in Canada were doing it not even for supplementary profit, but for Fun. I've been picked up in $80k vehicles by guys who did it a few hours a week to see the town, meet people, kill time in productive ways.

Of course, I've also seen people who were current or ex taxi drivers, working fulltime on several services.

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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:01AM (#20928259)
Anybody doing it for fun is going to be doing it less than 32 hours. So they'd be a part-time employee instead of a contractor. Part-time employees don't get many benefits either.
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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by maxehmookau on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:03AM (#20928282)
These people are the exception that Uber uses to push its bullshit narrative. We shouldn't be buying in to it.

People need dependable employment to survive and thrive.

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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by nostrebored on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @11:48AM (#20929489)
Why do you think this?

This is absurdly regional. Do you live in the region considering the legal change and take uber regularly enough to know if it's their fte?

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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by ekianjo on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @11:48AM (#20929499)
How do you know it's the exception? You have hard figures?
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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by bigwavedave on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @12:30PM (#20929990)
No, but he has an ax to grind, which is better than data. /s
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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by kgrin on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @09:54AM (#20928195)
Taking that at face value, I'd say that "limit drivers doing it 'for fun' in exchange for better pay/protections for drivers doing it to eke out a living" seems like a reasonable trade-off...
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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by i_am_proteus on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:29AM (#20928588)
No individual has any right to make a living doing anything they want to. If sufficient people are willing to do a job at a reduced wage because they enjoy it, that is their right.

This is like saying that libraries should ban unpaid volunteers in order to justify the hiring of more librarians.

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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by lazyasciiart on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @11:23AM (#20929209)
It is illegal in the US to have volunteers do work that would otherwise be done by a paid employee. That's why unpaid internships are, by default, illegal - to be legal they must replace the payment with school credit and valuable experience, basically.
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Re:California Labor Bill, Near Passage, Is Blow to Uber and ... by blub on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @10:46AM (#20928809)
Labour laws set minimum standards that all companies and employees / contractors / whatever should adhere to, because it reduces the likelihood of abuse.

The "right" you mention doesn't exist in e.g. countries with minimum wage laws.

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