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Re:Gombe Chimpanzee War by hn_throwaway_99 on Monday September 09, 2019 @11:31AM (#20919071)
After reading many, many stories about the absolute horrors of the natural world, I have such a difficult time understanding a belief in a benevolent god. After all, it is trivially easy to imagine a universe with less suffering (but perhaps still enough hardship to drive inquisitive and motivational behaviors), so the presence of so much unnecessary horror in nature leads me to believe either (a) God is a sadist or (b) natural selection in the face of scare resources is what causes this pain.

One of my favorite (or, rather, terror-inducing) examples is the parasitic emerald wasp, which uses its paralyzing sting to turn a cockroach into a "zombie" so it can drag it by its antenna into a burrow, then lay eggs on the roach, and when the larvae hatch they proceed to eat the roach, but in a specific order so that the organs necessary for survival are eaten last. Queen Cersei from Game of Thrones couldn't come up with more nightmare-inducing torture.

Re:Gombe Chimpanzee War by saas_sam on Monday September 09, 2019 @11:37AM (#20919128)
If the worst form of suffering you had ever encountered was a splinter on your foot, you would make the same claims. "After reading many, many stories about the absolute horrors of splinters, I have such a difficult time understanding a belief in a benevolent god..."

The suffering in the natural world seems terrible to us, but it could be nothing in the face of larger, unknown forms of suffering. We are limited by our imaginations, having no reason to believe we have access to anything approaching deep universal truths of suffering or divinity.

I say this as an atheist. Your argument struck me as a poor one.

Re:Gombe Chimpanzee War by tempguy9999 on Monday September 09, 2019 @11:48AM (#20919240)
> We are limited by our imaginations

"we"? You don't speak for me.

You sound to me like you've had a decent life and it's you that can't imagine (consider yourself lucky). Not everyone has your fortune.

Your argument struck me as a poor one too.

Re:Gombe Chimpanzee War by option on Monday September 09, 2019 @11:33AM (#20919094)
or a more obvious conclusion - god/gods just doesn’t exists
Re:Gombe Chimpanzee War by siasia on Monday September 09, 2019 @11:58AM (#20919328)
Benevolent god/gods just doesn't exist.
Re:Gombe Chimpanzee War by zxcvbn4038 on Monday September 09, 2019 @12:10PM (#20919452)
Maybe if we’re really nice to our metal overlords they will build one for us.