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Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by Barrin92 on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:02PM (#20913037)
getting university professors into an arms race with the salaries of the private markets would entirely shift the character of public education.

If universities had to play by the cutthroat logic of the market as a consequence research or teaching that is not profit oriented would have to die out, or tuitions rise to levels that put immense pressure on individuals and the public purse.

This is a dystopian scenario where academic freedom, basic research, and the non-commercial nature of research is completely lost. This is not something we should be going for, instead we should appeal to highly trained researchers to maybe think about the public good that is at stake here. People like Bengio show that it is possible. A future where essential AI research is commodified is a nightmare scenario.

Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by eli_gottlieb on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:08PM (#20913077)
Or we could cut out a few University Vice Provosts of Telling Professors to be Game-Changers who make $400k/year.
Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by nostrebored on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:07PM (#20913067)
How is this a nightmare scenario? Why is teaching being profit oriented a bad thing?

There is no necessary loss of academic freedom. Paying a competitive salary doesn't make research commercial -- the university is trying to retain researchers not turn a profit on the research.

Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by mkl on Sunday September 08, 2019 @05:25PM (#20913519)
> the university is trying to retain researchers not turn a profit on the research.

Depends on the university. Most claim ownership of researchers' inventions and have ambitions of profiting from them (many stumble at the commercialisation/monetisation step). For example, Stanford has reportedly made hundreds of millions off Google's PageRank algorithm, because Stanford owned the patent, not Larry Page. That's a good incentive not to work as a university researcher.

Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by creato on Sunday September 08, 2019 @08:37PM (#20914293)
I think Larry Page did okay in the end. It's not like Stanford takes hundreds of millions from every rinky dink idea thought up by it's students.

Another way to look at it is researchers are getting somewhat angelic investments from schools.

Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by ldoughty on Sunday September 08, 2019 @05:40PM (#20913614)
The money to pay people comes from loans, which are thousands of people hoping they make more money in the future to pay salaries today. If salaries were higher, tuition would be even more difficult and raise the loans even more.

Really universities need to find ways to capitalize on their knowledge base to help pay salaries. They also need to reduce overhead... Many schools have several disjoined IT and sometimes HR departments.

Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by Hello71 on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:09PM (#20913085)
this is a straw man, no better than the argument that the NCAA and other sports organizations use to excuse paying so-called "amateur players" absolutely nothing, for, and I quote, "considerably higher stress, harder work conditions, and less job security until they [go pro]". parent never argued that professors need to be paid as much as private, merely that the salaries need to be comparable rather than several times lower.
Re:When the A.I. Professor Leaves, Students Suffer, Study Says by scarejunba on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:20PM (#20913152)
They're in that race already because private enterprise exists. Either they lose or they adapt. Losing is having advanced research and tech be siloed inside massive corporations. Adapting is out-competing the massive corporations for the best, then being able to capitalize on the research.