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Re:What’s Next in Making Encrypted DNS-over-HTTPS the Default by jamescun on Saturday September 07, 2019 @05:45AM (#20902805)
I'd personally prefer to be greeted with a screen providing me with the option of multiple DNS-over-HTTPS providers, and the option of not using one at all, than being silently forced into handing CloudFlare even more of my data.
Re:What’s Next in Making Encrypted DNS-over-HTTPS the Default by josteink on Saturday September 07, 2019 @12:22PM (#20904747)
How about to save time, we could have this choice only once, and that would apply to every application on the machine. Say it could even be handled by the OS itself!

And to save users even more time, not having to configure this per machine, we could have such assignment be an automatic part of the network infrastructure...

We could call it DHCP and DNS! How about it?

Re:What’s Next in Making Encrypted DNS-over-HTTPS the Default by testis321 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @03:41PM (#20906024)
And DNSSEC all the way to the user!
Re:What’s Next in Making Encrypted DNS-over-HTTPS the Default by tptacek on Saturday September 07, 2019 @07:24PM (#20907359)
I'd be pretty pissed if my network connection opted me into a DNSSEC-verifying resolver, since that is pretty much pure downside for users.
Re:What’s Next in Making Encrypted DNS-over-HTTPS the Default by josteink on Sunday September 08, 2019 @04:23AM (#20909253)
As someone not very knowledgable about DNSSEC, can you expand on this point? To the uninformed that sounds very counterintuitive.
Re:What’s Next in Making Encrypted DNS-over-HTTPS the Default by tptacek on Sunday September 08, 2019 @09:52AM (#20910559)
Apart from the blog post, if you don't know anything about DNSSEC, I think the things you want to know are:

1. Almost nobody --- major tech companies, banks, privacy and security organizations --- uses it. It's decades old, and its adoption, at least in North America and in industry, is zero. There are lots of reasons, but you don't have to care right now.

2. Since almost nothing uses it, there's no real upside to enabling it. But there is a downside! If DNSSEC is misconfigured --- which is easy to do, and it won't get noticed quickly (see: point 1) --- then sites in the DNSSEC-signed zone silently drop off the Internet, as if they never existed. That happened, for instance, to HBO when they launched HBO NOW: nobody on Comcast could see it, because it turned out they'd screwed up DNSSEC, and Comcast had DNSSEC-verifying resolvers.

Re:What’s Next in Making Encrypted DNS-over-HTTPS the Default by wolf550e on Sunday September 08, 2019 @07:29AM (#20909874)