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Re:Librem 5 Shipping Announcement by negative_zero on Thursday September 05, 2019 @10:52PM (#20892616)
I think there is an unfair amount of negativity in here and would like to offer an insiders perspective:

I have worked 11 years in product development in various roles (Hardware, Test, Production, Firmware and Mechanical often simultaneously). I can confidently tell you that this is how product development is in the real world (even amongst the big players). This schedule puri.sm publised is something you would never normally see, but I guarantee you exists for every product.

This is why, even though I am a lover of technology, I am not an early adopter. I normally buy a product when it has been on the market for 6-12 months as, in my expirience at least, you are on about revision 3-5 by then. The last minute changes for compliance are no longer done by hand, the first major issues from the field are fixed, mechanical tools are stable etc.

I know this place is majority software engineers so here's an analogy I'm sure many can relate to: How often have you shipped software to a customer that is beta? Or even alpha? Product development is no different :)

Re:Librem 5 Shipping Announcement by sulkie on Thursday September 05, 2019 @11:15PM (#20892731)
The expressed negativity is not directed towards hardware development process, rather towards what ended up being insincere promises the team gave about the state of the product that would be shipping in Q3 2019.
Re:Librem 5 Shipping Announcement by negative_zero on Thursday September 05, 2019 @11:58PM (#20892938)
Oh I understand that. I was just trying to communicate that: their latest promise was to start shipping final hardware to people Q3 2019 and Bach Aspen is exactly that.

I actually give them kudos for allowing people to choose what batch they receive. I specifically did not pre-order because I don't want an early batch of hardware of any product. Had I know I would get a choice I would have pre-ordered.

Re:Librem 5 Shipping Announcement by ncmncm on Friday September 06, 2019 @09:43AM (#20895534)
You still can.