I think every team at Apple uses what makes more sense for the project. The official SwiftUI docs and tutorials use Vue.js for example: https://developer.apple.com/tutorials/swiftui/creating-and-c...

> React is FB and Angular is Google

This doesn't matter in practice - they could have freely used either to design the web client at no cost. If they wanted to take over development and go their own direction they just had to fork them.

Of course in doesn’t matter in practice. It’s the optics.

Is there still patent uncertainty around React (or Angular)? Otherwise, Im not sure why anyone outside HN would care about the optics of which front-end library was used.

Are you really saying you don’t understand why Apple might not want to use a framework created by their frenemies in Facebook and Google, especially given Apple’s focus on privacy and willingness to make an example of FB and Google for their comparatively lax privacy standards?

Apple’s iCloud has alternately used Microsoft Azure and Google Cloud. That’s a bit more trusting than a front end web framework.

https://betanews.com/2018/02/26/apple-icloud-now-powered-by-...

Sure, but how does any of that resonate with the general public? "Apple is using Facebook's front-end code library" isnt exactly a gripping headline or tweet. You can read the source code to either; its not as if theyre secretly embedding tracking into every React/Angular app.

Ok. I mean you can ask that to Tim Cook :) If not optics it’s about ego. Again, if Apple hates FB/Goog then why use their frameworks when there’s dozens of other alternatives.

Not that it matters but I interviewed for an Apple team that was using react. Something adjacent to iTunes if I remember correctly.

FWIW, Apple uses both for other projects.