Re:Phones that secretly listen to us are a myth
by DoctorOetker on Thursday September 05, 2019 @06:37AM
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why put it in baseband? does baseband have access to the raw audio buffers? just put it in ARM's secure world, that's what it's designed for...
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Re:Phones that secretly listen to us are a myth
by garmaine on Thursday September 05, 2019 @07:46AM
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Because the baseband is opaque to the software running elsewhere on the phone, proprietary, and not visible to inspection by security researchers.
Re:Phones that secretly listen to us are a myth
by ncmncm on Thursday September 05, 2019 @12:24PM
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Baseband processor has access to absolutely everything on all but Purism phones. Android is a guest OS.
Re:Phones that secretly listen to us are a myth
by DoctorOetker on Friday September 06, 2019 @05:36AM
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I always thought baseband referred to the processor and firmware/software that responsible for the radio modem?
Do Android and baseband firmware run on one and the same processor(s)? Or are we calling ARM Secure World / TrustZone baseband these days?
Re:Phones that secretly listen to us are a myth
by ncmncm on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @02:52AM
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Android runs on a processor that operates, or not, at the pleasure of the baseband processor. The latter has complete access to all memory, and complete control over the Android's CPU cores. Android and the cores it runs on have no access to the baseband processor's memory, or any control over its execution.