Re:Why Index Funds Are Like Subprime CDOs
by 0xcafecafe on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:43PM
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I think his point is that most index funds are weighted towards large caps and ignore small ones. With more and more money pouring in, it creates an inflation in value there whereas the small caps get ignored. That is the most logical interpretation I can draw out of his statement (although I am a 100% index investor myself).
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Re:Why Index Funds Are Like Subprime CDOs
by markbnj on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:48PM
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It seems like that point doesn't stand, though. In the boggleheads thread linked elsewhere several posters seem to show that there is actually more small cap diversity in the index funds.
Re:Why Index Funds Are Like Subprime CDOs
by swsieber on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:48PM
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Huh. I thought standard index fund advice was to split up you investments. I have 25% (of my investments) in a small cap fund. Does that count as ignored, or am I an outlier?
Re:Why Index Funds Are Like Subprime CDOs
by basch on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:55PM
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A total market index fund is proportioned by market cap. As the large cap gets larger, it proportionally becomes a higher percent of the pie. If large cap is overvalued, youre owning less small cap than "true price market cap."
Re:Why Index Funds Are Like Subprime CDOs
by swsieber on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @07:30PM
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Ah got it. So I by sharding my investment into several different different targeted funds (with auto-rebalancing) avoid that issue.... I think.
Re:Why Index Funds Are Like Subprime CDOs
by basch on Thursday September 05, 2019 @09:34AM
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If, for example, you thought small caps were under valued, and you wanted to tilt small cap, you could keep doing exactly what youre doing, and just add a small investment into small caps on the side. So at Schwab, if you hold Schwab Target 2060 Index Fund (SWYNX) you can tilt by making sure Schwab U.S. Small-Cap ETF (SCHA) is 10% of your portfolio. At the moment, SCHA is 6.8% of SWYNX, so you would need an additional 3.2%. I dont know if you even need autobalancing for something so simple, just fix your allocation every time you make a contribution.
Re:Why Index Funds Are Like Subprime CDOs
by the_gastropod on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @09:01PM
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You’re trading one issue for another. By holding x% of a small cap fund, where x does not equal the actual market proportion for small cap funds, you’re choosing to over or under weight that asset class.