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Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by mnemonicsloth on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:52AM (#208877)
Interesting.

Neither of the TC intern's emails are quoted. We get to take Arrington's word for it that "Peter responded politely."

The CEO's email looks curt and impolite, but we have no way of knowing whether that's because the CEO is a jerk, or because there's a mollifying second half to that email that Arrington didn't feel like publishing.

In the past I've basically ignored TC because I thought they were kind of silly. Question for anybody who follows this more closely than I do -- is Tech Crunch making the transition from "waste of time" to "unambiguous parasite" ?

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by jsjenkins168 on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @09:37AM (#208905)
The interns emails are posted in the comments. They really aren't that bad, and definitely dont warrant such a response from a CEO in my opinion
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by tjr on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @09:56AM (#208923)
No, the intern's emails aren't that bad. Frankly, I don't think that Price's emails are that bad either. None of this warrants being made public.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by fourlittlebees on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @10:33AM (#208945)
The intern replied with the TIME 100 article when asked about TechCrunch. I thought that was a bit over the top, and a dig at the CEO for DARING to not know who Mike Arrington is.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by olefoo on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @03:57PM (#209315)
That sense of entitlement on the part of TechCrunch and the people associated with it is why it's losing value so rapidly.

The balloon has popped, the shark has been jumped, the welcome has been overstayed;

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by extantproject on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:16AM (#208835)
This story reinforces what Tech Crunch is to me, as I commented a few days ago:

"Yes, TC is a click generator fueled by drama."

(http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=205986)

... I'm even happier now to have unsubscribed from their useless, noisy little RSS feed.

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by josefresco on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:25AM (#208846)
Speaking of RSS, when is Feedburner going to adjust their dramatically inflated "subscriber" count that is featured prominently on sites like TC? 785K looks good and all, and at least the numbers from site to site are relative, but I'd rather see accurate numbers (not a number akin to 'hits')
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by nkohari on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:41AM (#208864)
I love how Arrington continually says that the email was sent to [email protected], except that it would be pretty damn rare for a startup to have an actual PR department. And anyway, if a company doesn't want to release information to the press, they aren't required to do so, no matter if it's TechCrunch or the f'n Times asking. Arrington getting offended when the request was rebuked just comes off as pugilistic.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by ComputerGuru on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @01:16PM (#209128)
Four years since starting my organization, [email protected] still redirects to my email address (as the founder & Director). As if TechCrunch doesn't know that's what small companies & organizations do!
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by jpeterson on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @09:49AM (#208915)
Sigh. Can we have a ban of techcrunch? Pretty please?
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by extantproject on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @11:41AM (#209015)
I'll second that.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by helveticaman on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @05:05PM (#209386)
Just to venture a guess, I think the problem with HN isn't only signal/noise ratio, but the amount of signal--there might not be enough.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by fizx on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @12:52PM (#209096)
They occasionally have good content... Maybe a way to aggressively bury TC content would be nice?
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by Xichekolas on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @01:59PM (#209173)
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by hobbs on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @01:09PM (#209119)
And yet we have a sensationalist article about brain surgeons' cell phones shoot to the top spot?

Good luck getting people to be picky.

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by gaius on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:24AM (#208843)
Did Price actually tell them to "f*ck themselves" or was that just made up for sensationalism?
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by josefresco on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:26AM (#208848)
You get one guess, keep in mind that Arrington authored the post.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by KirinDave on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @11:18AM (#208988)
This is the same kind of sensationalist drama-laden "inference" reporting that Arrington got criticized for with the Yang "We're Done" article.

It's really ridiculous, but I guess we have to remember that TC isn't a news outlet, it's a blog. Sometimes, MA is going to blog about what he's eating for lunch.

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by babul on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @09:41AM (#208909)
There are plenty of people/startups/companies who have never heard of TC.

Seems these are people who generally just get on with things in thier own way in thier own markets, free from hype.

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by edw519 on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:33AM (#208856)
Why blog when a tweet will do?

"Emailed tunecore. They said fu. Boo hoo."

100 characters to spare.

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by josefresco on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @08:43AM (#208866)
Maybe because Twitter was down?

/thank you folks, I'll be here all week

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by Xichekolas on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @01:56PM (#209168)
The brilliance was that TuneCore got all this publicity from rebuking Arrington. Maybe that is the key to making the front page of TC: be politely rude to them.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by ssharp on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @10:35AM (#208946)
Arrington is such a drama queen.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by colortone on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @11:46AM (#209029)
(Disclosure: I’ve been a user since [almost] day one and have contributed to the Tunecore blog)

Here's my comment (#209) on the original thread:

I would love it if we could start hearing about more businesses that are growing out of existing industries that are leveraging the Net (rather than SV startups leveraging the Net to get into existing industries).

Another example in the music domain would be SonicBids.

Concentrating so much on SV just leads to too much irony:

TuneCore is probably THE most revolutionary music-focused web service (esp in terms of business model innovation) and they’ve been pulling in real revenue with a real, sustainable revenue stream that solves extreme problems for its customers for years.

To top it off, they have probably THE most intelligent strategic partnership (w/ Guitar Center) of any web-based business.

I agree that a) there’s only so many hours in the day, b) the Valley is the most important place in the world for software innovation, and c) much of the work TechCrunch does is very valuable, but it would be nice to see more “worldly” coverage [for lack of a better term].

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by colortone on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @03:09PM (#209248)
Can anyone explain why this comment was downmodded?

Is it because I syndicated something that was posted elsewhere?

I feel like what I wrote here brought a lot of context to this story, especially given my background as a musician and record label manager.

TIA for any insight

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by babul on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @09:40AM (#208907)
Arrington seems to have ego issues? Lots of melodrama lately.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by macgyver1 on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @09:53AM (#208918)
Talk about sensational headlines, read the title at the top of this page. I don't think he wrote it because they'd never heard of techcrunch, he wrote it because of the bizarre response from what was supposed to be the PR e-mail address of their company. Also, read the comments of the techcrunch posts and he provides their own e-mails.

Arrington may be a douche, but this thread is very sensationalist

Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by scooter53080 on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @11:23AM (#208998)
To me the interesting part of this story is the advice to 'not cold contact the CEO'. If you have multiple email addresses coming into one box you'd better keep track which one a message is from and respond appropriately. There's nothing wrong about cold contact at a press@ address. As far as him not know what TechCrunch is...that part is pleasing. ;-)
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by adnam on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @12:28PM (#209072)
Slow news day
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by sabat on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @10:10AM (#208929)
Maybe I just buy into Arrington's BS, but the tunescore guy comes off like a jackass. Maybe Techcrunch doesn't deserve extra special treatment, but it is the primary startup news site. "Who are you?" is a clueless response, especially from a tiny company that needs all the coverage it can get.
Re:TuneCore Tells Us Where We Can Shove It by axod on Wednesday June 04, 2008 @03:44PM (#209303)
I agree it was a pretty bad reply. It doesn't take a couple of seconds to go to google, see who you're dealing, and notice that they could be potentially useful to you as a business..

However, maybe it was a stressful day and they had a heap of spam or irritating emails trying to sell them stuff.