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Re:USB4 Specification by hazeii on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @02:41AM (#20874578)
Indeed, I've just had exactly this case with a high speed USB3 camera. Tested it on 2 PC's and a Pi4 both direct and via a USB3.1 hub and it just wouldn't deliver the theoretical frame rate. Finally turned out the 'premium' USB C cables we were using are actualy only USB2.

From pictures on Amazon [0], a lot of cables being advertised as Type C USB3 are actually missing the 'SS' labelling, despite being advertised as 'Superspeed' (i.e. 5Gbps) in the description.

[0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-PowerLine-Durability-Devices-... - in this case, it currently provides a link "There is a newer version of this item" which links to a USB2 version(!).

Re:USB4 Specification by pas on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @05:37AM (#20875473)
All of this is software UX problem. I plug something in that something should tell me what kind of connection it established, is it any good, etc. Try the fast ones opportunistically and tell me when it has to fall back. That's it. If it works I'll know anyway.

Even a simple micro-USB on phones needed a pop-up to select what functionality the user wants to activate (charging, file transfer, host mode, debugging).

The problem is not new, but most software makers are stubborn miscreants that hate good UX (simplicity, discoverability, accessibility / introspectability, extendability). They usually champion one aspect to the total detriment of the others - eg GNOME3, phone OSes.

Re:USB4 Specification by magduf on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:13PM (#20879257)
The problem is they think users are too stupid to understand that much information and detail. And for the most part, they're right: users are very stupid.
Re:USB4 Specification by fanf2 on Thursday September 05, 2019 @03:25AM (#20884579)
Hiding information from them won’t help them to become less confused.
Re:USB4 Specification by magduf on Thursday September 05, 2019 @08:32AM (#20885964)
Tell that to the UI "experts".