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Re:ESP32/ESP8266 Wi-Fi Attacks by baybal2 on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @03:18PM (#20870103)
First comer advantage is huge.

I work with a mid sized engineering consultancy.

We began switching to ESP as our primary platform just around 2 years ago, just as wifi gadgets were starting to boom.

To date, we got 500 megs of MCU project in our repo. Though most of code is repetitive, there is no chance we will part with such a huge codebase.

Being able to complete a $200k project in a few weeks through code reuse, instead of few months is huge, and imagine how it is for bigger companies with own hardware. No chance anybody switching now.

Re:ESP32/ESP8266 Wi-Fi Attacks by emilfihlman on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @07:51PM (#20872582)
>First comer advantage is huge.

No. It was first comer advantage in affordable wifi MCUs since they existed just fine before but only as more expensive solutions as I mentioned. You can keep on claiming otherwise but the facts don't support you in claiming that there weren't wifi MCUs before.

Re:ESP32/ESP8266 Wi-Fi Attacks by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @06:23PM (#20871868)
Why do you call it first mover advantage when there were wifi MCUs before it?
Re:ESP32/ESP8266 Wi-Fi Attacks by baybal2 on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @06:56PM (#20872135)
What was before were not MCUs as such, but a zoo of spi wifi + mcu "solutions" from rentier companies like broadcom.

Technically, and conceptually they were hopelessly behind an integrated WiFi MCU.

Re:ESP32/ESP8266 Wi-Fi Attacks by emilfihlman on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @07:53PM (#20872600)
You are wrong. There were many Wifi MCU solutions available before.

Espressif did not innovate in the technology space but in pricing and having enough documentation available that hackers could piece together an open source toolchain and libs for the chip.

Re:ESP32/ESP8266 Wi-Fi Attacks by emilfihlman on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @07:52PM (#20872588)
He's just wrong/in denial about it. Wifi MCUs existed just fine before ESP as you say, they just weren't affordable.