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Re:And suddenly, you're hip by berntb on Sunday January 09, 2011 @06:04PM (#2086732)
Well, the OP comments seems to get rewritten a bit, without adding "Edit:". :-)

Edit: If I should touch your point, too... the OP's complaints are literally about 1990s system administrators, which weren't really programmers. You'll get bad code in any language without coding standards, etc.

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