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Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by FireBeyond on Sunday September 01, 2019 @07:01PM (#20855571)
Whereas people on Reddit have no bias at all? Why is it FUD? Why do we equally blindly believe "oh, no, this is all Chinese tainted shit - 'real' vape cartridges are all goodness and light"?
Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by mastazi on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:09PM (#20855809)
Having an article titled "Mysterious [XXX] illness" is pretty much the dictionary definition of FUD but even if you can't accept that, the national health organisations of UK[1] and New Zealand[2] have conducted studies about vaping, you can find a lot of data there (something that can't be said about the NYT article).

[1] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cigarettes-around-95-le...

[2] https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/preventative-health-well...

Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by Domenic_S on Sunday September 01, 2019 @07:49PM (#20855730)
Well, some of us have been vaping (in the traditional sense - nicotine/PG/VG) since those people in the article were in kindergarten. This kind of problem hasn't been a thing until recently.
Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by jonathankoren on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:00PM (#20855774)
And the article specifically mentioned this.
Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by wutbrodo on Sunday September 01, 2019 @07:12PM (#20855605)
If you're coming from the oversimplified perspective that things are always horribly evil or "goodness and light", then sure. But you have to understand that many of us here are different in that we're capable of understanding nuance, and that facts and details matter in building a model of a complex world.

The health effects of vaping still aren't settled science, but that doesn't make these article any less FUD: The fact that headlines like this and others are eliding the critical fact that the cases they describe are limited to bootleg cartridges is pretty much a central case of FUD.

Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by FireBeyond on Sunday September 01, 2019 @07:14PM (#20855609)
The Reddit article there _literally_ describes it as "our wonderful alternative".
Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by wutbrodo on Sunday September 01, 2019 @11:05PM (#20856490)
Where in my comment am I saying anything about the Reddit post? The GP comment by mastazi says "I wish the article gave more details instead of spreading FUD", you responded with a complete non sequitur about people who assume legitimate products are risk-free, and I pointed out that disliking FUD doesn't automatically mean you're Pollyannaish about the risks of legitimate products.

Again, what I'm trying to explain to you is that for some of us, there are more than two possible positions here. Mastazi complaining about FUD in a WaPo article (or the original nyt one posted here) doesn't mean he agrees with a random Reddit commenter who also disagrees with the article.

Re:A Vaping Illness That’s ‘Becoming an Epidemic’ by mastazi on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:32PM (#20855885)