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Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by anon1m0us on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @06:02PM (#20824494)
A man who does that signals that he buys into all the social hype, but is too cheap to really buy in ... and he'll be forcing his wife to either reveal that or perpetuate a lie.

Why not just be a real man, speak and live the truth. Eschew the lies.

Why can't we all just do that as a society? It doesn't matter how much you love each other or your mutual respect? Why do rings even matter?

It's the kind of irrational behavior that has destroyed an entire planet!

Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by hnick on Thursday August 29, 2019 @12:33AM (#20826715)
I wouldn't go that far. He may well not buy in to the social hype, but understand that it exists and begrudgingly play the game his own way for appearances only. It'd be the smartest move in many cases. The game is rigged so lying to beat it isn't something I'd condemn, especially if his wife is of the same mind.

I definitely agree with your last point, but wasting resources to display fitness is found all across the animal kingdom and sadly it doesn't seem like we've moved past that yet as a species.

Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by jacobwilliamroy on Thursday August 29, 2019 @04:32AM (#20827777)
Or...

>buy fake diamonds

>lie to everyone, including spouse

>fudge the books so spouse can't see suspiciously low-ball jeweler transaction

>launder savings through local cash-money businesses

>use hypnotic sedatives to repress memories of the lie

Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by scarejunba on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @06:54PM (#20824899)
This comment sounds so much like a spambot I decided to see what GPT-2 would generate for "Real men don't buy fake diamonds":

> Real men don't buy fake diamonds. They buy real diamond rings. Fake diamonds just aren't worth anything, let alone being used for a marriage contract. So I'll be keeping the diamond wedding.

It also produced this beauty:

Real men don't buy fake diamonds. Fake men don't pay fake taxes. Fake men don't lie about their motives.

Fake men can't read. Fake men can't keep their promises.

Fake men know how to hide from the truth. Fake men can't make promises they can't keep.

Fake men can't even tell the truth when they think nobody cares, if everybody's watching.

Fake men lie just because they can.

Fake men are the same as us.

They just don't know we're watching.

Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by artsyca on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @02:32AM (#20864137)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxLtdur5fc

Of interest in relation to GPT-2

Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by toomanybeersies on Thursday August 29, 2019 @03:52AM (#20827588)
Wow, that looks exactly like some kind of "motivational quote" that my relatives might post on Facebook. I wonder if you attributed this to some famous person and seeded it on the internet somewhere, how far it would travel.
Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by TheOtherHobbes on Thursday August 29, 2019 @04:19AM (#20827717)
One of the first signs that we're moving into a post-AI world will be an AI New Age guru-bot running a self-branded business generating "inspiring" quotes, books, and YT vids with no human intervention.
Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by Nasrudith on Thursday August 29, 2019 @08:46AM (#20828978)
Ah relative AI advancement - smarter than humans only because some have degraded themselves to be indistinguishable from literal noise.
Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by artsyca on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @02:30AM (#20864127)
Can you release this through Creative Commons in some form?
Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by reificator on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:04PM (#20824961)
> This comment sounds so much like a spambot

Do you think the comment you're replying to is against fake diamonds because they want you to buy real diamonds?

Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by scarejunba on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:11PM (#20825422)
The comment expresses the view that the whole diamond thing is bollocks. It's just oddly melodramatic in my opinion and takes these wild swings that spam comments on my WordPress blog take.
Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by privateSFacct on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:47PM (#20825262)
Not sure why you are getting downvoted.

The guys who get women fake diamonds may result in an uncomfortable partner when someone wows over the diamond.

In my case my wife was a scientist - so a man made diamond was perfect. Same thing physically, less likely to have a conflict origin. My advice, if you know your partner well - get something that works for them. For some that's a diamond.

Re:Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (1982) by toomanybeersies on Thursday August 29, 2019 @03:49AM (#20827568)
I know plenty of people with "diamondesque" jewellery and I think they look great. There's more reasons to buy jewellery than just social hype.