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Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by rhn_mk1 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @04:29PM (#20823692)
Does this affect anything outside the Linux kernel? Will *BSDs be able to use the specs without patent fears? What about microcontrollers, and the Arduino community?
Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by Conan_Kudo on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @04:55PM (#20823881)
No. The OIN promise only applies to Linux-based systems.
Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by derefr on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @05:08PM (#20823981)
What defines a "Linux-based system"? Does Android count? Would VMWare's VSphere ESXi hypervisor count? Would a unikernel running on a pared-down Linux rump-kernel (if such a thing were made) count?
Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by mdolan1 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @06:06PM (#20824523)
OIN works with the Linux kernel community to define a "Linux System Definition" that has tables of packages and functionality covered. New functionality is added every year. It does not include proprietary software or components.

https://www.openinventionnetwork.com/joining-oin/linux-syste...

Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by progval on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @05:12PM (#20824020)
According to http://en.swpat.org/wiki/GPLv2_and_patents , GPLv2 includes an implicit patent grant

So my guess would be that the definition of "derivative work" would apply.

Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by monocasa on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @05:37PM (#20824243)
That's super duper grey area, which is why GPLv3 went out of it's way to have an explicit patent grant.
Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by bubblethink on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @05:15PM (#20824041)
So the code in the linux kernel would have to be signed off/committed by MS in that case, right ? For a grant to have any meaning, the code would need to come from them ?
Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by yc12340 on Thursday August 29, 2019 @11:35PM (#20835782)
The definition of "Linux system" is a red herring.

If you haven't signed OIN licensing agreement, you do not receive any relevant patent grants, period.

Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by bubblethink on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @05:11PM (#20824008)
How does that work ? OIN applies to corporations. What if you aren't a member ? Or is the actual code in the linux kernel going to have a patent grant ? But MS may not be the one committing the code. So will they just add a patent grant header irrespective of who commits the code ?
Re:exFAT in the Linux kernel by loeg on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:45PM (#20826491)
Well that's kind of shitty for the BSDs. :-/

If we took the GPL2 linux driver and imported it using our linuxkpi emulation layer, is that a "linux-derived system" enough? :)