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Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by longtom on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:24PM (#20821920)
You can use the HTML-only version of Gmail at the bottom of the page which loads in 300 ms or so.

    Gmail view: standard | >basic HTML<
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by jpwgarrison on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @02:52PM (#20822786)
It looks like keyboard shortcuts don't work here? I tried the new Thunderbird, but it looks like you (still) need an extension to change keyboard shortcuts and none of them work with v68 even if you don't mind third party extensions.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by longtom on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:29PM (#20825521)
For anyone interested, I just put together a userscript with some rudimentary key assignments for the Basic HTML version of Gmail:

https://pastebin.com/raw/zyfHp5Vs

Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by SanchoPanda on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:43PM (#20825232)
Don't forget html google contacts and html google calendar. Not optimized for desktop, but damn they are fast. The calendar also still parses natural language for new meetings using the bar, whereas regular google calendar dropped it from the looks of things.

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/m?pli=1

Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by slovenlyrobot on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:49PM (#20822187)
I find it embarrassing that this feature needs to exist at all
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by sp332 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @02:01PM (#20822309)
The HTML version doesn't update when you get a new email. You have to refresh it to check. Also if you want to compose more than one email at once, or if you want to refer to one email while composing another, you need multiple browser tabs.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by philsnow on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @02:08PM (#20822377)
> The HTML version doesn't update when you get a new email. You have to refresh it to check.

This is one of the reasons I use it. I get in, catch up, get the hell out of dodge (close the tab), and then I don't have (yet) a(nother) gmail tab sucking up literally hundreds of MB of RSS.

Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by earenndil on Thursday August 29, 2019 @01:28AM (#20826906)
Such features could be added in a lightweight way with very minimal javascript, to the html version.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by longtom on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:53PM (#20822235)
Gmail is a free product, hence it has possibly low priority.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by mey on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:59PM (#20822297)
I am paying for it, as are many businesses.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by jmathai on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @03:34PM (#20823220)
Some % of Google's $30 billion quarterly revenue comes from Ads in Gmail. This does not include revenue generated from enterprise G Suite licenses.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by manigandham on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @04:11PM (#20823559)
The older versions were faster. Every new update becomes slower and more bloated.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by wasdfff on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @03:41PM (#20823321)
My tuition pays for g suite.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by godzillabrennus on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:41PM (#20826468)
It’s free for colleges. Your tuition pays for bloated administrative staff salaries.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by th-ai on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @06:02PM (#20824489)
http://tiny.cc/ggmm loads gmail fast
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by longtom on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @06:03PM (#20824504)
This seems longer than writing http://gmail.com or does it link directly to the html version
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by Groxx on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @06:34PM (#20824755)
seems like it links directly. dunno why you'd go through a link shortener instead of bookmarking the actual page tho.
Re:Thunderbird 68.0 by SanchoPanda on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:20PM (#20825067)
Perhaps due to preferences against bookmarking the customized url you get on that page? The shortest canonical URL I know to access html version directly is

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=h