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Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by nicoburns on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:32AM (#20820789)
> It is just not practical for me to go full-veg, where I live I would need to cook one hour a day for it,

Why does eating meat mean you can cook less?

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by Iv on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:19PM (#20826382)
Because then I can buy pre-cooked food. I live in countryside Japan where it does not cost a lot more to buy a bento than to cook one yourself.

Before moving in, I used to think it should be easy to be vegetarian in a Buddhist country but it is not. Japan's culinary habit is that a good meal needs to have a lot of different ingredients in it. From a dietetics point of view, that's great but it often means that even in most salads, you'll have a few pieces of bacon or chicken, a shrimg or some grains of minced meat.

That still makes for a very meat-light diet and would switch to a no-meat-at-all in a heartbeat if those bentos and salads came in vegetarian versions, but that makes it almost impossible to avoid meat.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by nicoburns on Thursday August 29, 2019 @11:12AM (#20830191)
Ah, interesting. Here in the UK, pre-made vegetarian food is readily available in both restaurants and supermarkets.
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by ebiester on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:48AM (#20820953)
In some areas, the only option is to cook 100% of meals if one wants to be vegetarian. In others, it is still possible to go out to eat. Further, the prepackaged vegetarian options are only available in some options.
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by zeveb on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @12:40PM (#20821423)
Meat is remarkably easy to cook: apply heat to meat, done. Vegetables take preparation, require more-complex treatment, need to be managed well (I have no problem eating a quick meal of just a steak or chicken breast; I really would hate eating a quick meal of only carrots or just onions).

Meat's convenient in a way that vegetables aren't.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by NeedMoreTea on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @03:37PM (#20823261)
I can only assume you are buying your meat pre-boned and sliced or diced, chicken breast already removed from carcass etc, probably in some lovely single use plastic. In which case someone else did the prep for you, not sign there's less prep required.

Veggies are less effort: peel some, chop into suitably sized bits. To compare like with like compare with pre-sliced and peeled veggies, or animal carcass before skinning and butchering. :)

Something like a rosti with cheese or added spinach or cabbage is cooked meat speed fast and tasty, as are a whole host of the traditional leftovers recipes that grew up to use up spuds, carrots, cabbage etc next day.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by okmokmz on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:46PM (#20822156)
>Vegetables take preparation, require more-complex treatment, need to be managed well

Are you treating your vegetables like wagyu beef and giving them massages or something? If not, aside from a quick wash, cooking vegetables is no more difficult than cooking meat. Sautee them, bake them, pan fry, deep fry, air fry, broil, steam, sous vide, etc...

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by phonypc on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:09PM (#20821749)
This is the opposite of reality in my experience. Most vegetables can be quickly steamed, boiled, stir fried etc. Legumes or tubers take longer, but require little active participation.

Meat on the other hand is greatly benefited by things like marination, mechanical tenderizing, monitoring temperature as it cooks. You can whip up a steak pretty quick, but probably not any faster than you could stir fry some veggies.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by cferr on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @02:33PM (#20822623)
If we're talking steak in particular, it's going to be faster than any palatable vegetable based dish every time. Total cook time is about five minutes, and prep is less than a minute.

Also in particular, stir frying isn't a great example of a vegetable preparation which is fast. Prep is usually at least twice the amount of time as the frying.

Peanut butter celery sticks would be a better example I think.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by phonypc on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @03:17PM (#20823051)
A thin steak cooked as fast as possible, sure.

There are so many variables it's hard to say anything concrete, but on average I'd bet people spend less active time preparing vegetables to eat than meat.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by okmokmz on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @04:52PM (#20823847)
>If we're talking steak in particular, it's going to be faster than any palatable vegetable based dish every time. Total cook time is about five minutes

Maybe with very thin, low quality grocery store steaks. When I eat meat I buy steaks from a butcher that are over an inch thick, and require 5-7 minutes minimum per side for medium rare. Sometimes even more for thicker cuts

>prep is less than a minute. Also in particular, stir frying isn't a great example of a vegetable preparation which is fast. Prep is usually at least twice the amount of time as the frying.

A lot of people think vegetables are difficult because they don't have knife skills so it takes multiple minutes to cut a piece of produce. With practice, prep for cooking vegetables should be just as fast. Also, even if it does take an extra couple minutes of my time, its worth it for my own health and morals by not supporting industrialized farming