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Re:If you must run Windows 10 by rad_gruchalski on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @08:45PM (#20815851)
How is it more expensive. The last macOS I had to pay for was mountain lion. That was 10.8. I get that I have to buy a mac to get the os but once I have it, I get the most recent version of macOS for free from the AppStore.

https://www.apple.com/shop/help/downloadable_software

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Re:If you must run Windows 10 by IloveHN84 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:20AM (#20816983)
The overpriced hardware (usually the same of other OEMs, like DELL) is including the price of the OS itself.
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Re:If you must run Windows 10 by rad_gruchalski on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:14AM (#20819959)
Yes, but if I buy a dell with Windows 10, and MS releases Windows 11 a month from now, I will (most likely, based on each previous release), have to buy a license of Windows 11. Apple used to do that until 10.8.
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Re:If you must run Windows 10 by jevgeni on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:16AM (#20816964)
The price is included in the price of the whole product.

I mean, it’s not the price of materials that dominate Apple’s pricing. And you actually have to pay money to people developing the OS. So no, it’s not free.

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Re:If you must run Windows 10 by beatgammit on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:41AM (#20819647)
You're paying for the brand, design, etc. Yes, Apple funds OS development though other sales, but it's not sold separately and new OS releases are free. As far as I understand the law, I can legally install macOS on a machine that did not originally come with it installed (hackintosh), with the caveat that I violate Apple's EULA by doing so.

Microsoft bundles all sorts of software with their OS that can be installed separately for free, does that mean they're actually not free because development is funded through other product sales? A lot of their services have a free tier, are those services not free because there's a paid tier?

Apple's inflated hardware price certainly includes room for funding their OS development, but that doesn't mean the OS isn't free. Windows sales also likely go toward funding things other than OS development, but that doesn't mean that all of their products aren't free if you're running them on Windows.

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Re:If you must run Windows 10 by jevgeni on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:52AM (#20820991)
That’s a bit of confusing things. My argument is that regardless of how these products are funded, they ARE funded and their target segment is different based on that source of funding.

MacOS is a premium product. Windows 10 Home edition is obviously not. You mention yourself in another comment that you estimate the cost of it to be around $40.

HN collectively throwing a fit because Windows 10 Home doesn’t fit their needs is silly, because they are not the target audience.

IF you intend to compare macOS with Windows, you need to compare same market segments, i.e. macOS and Windows 10 Pro.

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