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Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by lonelappde on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @12:53PM (#20811821)
The Chinese shippment also has to use a truck to get from Port.
Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by hinkley on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @03:45PM (#20813720)
Do you remember that article a couple years ago about pollution at the Port in LA? They've done a bunch to reduce ship emissions in dock but the truckers are popping up on the radar.

The short-haul truckers at the Port in LA are all independent owner-operators, which sounds like a cool libertarian/capitalist ideal until you figure out that new trucks are super expensive so the operators are almost exclusively buying used trucks, often quite old (and grandfathered into emissions rules). And as we all know from personal experience, there's a lot of soot that comes from a heavy diesel when it accelerates from a dead stop.

And there are no large necks to wring so now you're in the awkward situation of having to go after little guys.

Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by trhway on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @04:22PM (#20814059)
The short haul trucks is primary use case for going electric.
Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by trhway on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @03:21PM (#20813481)
1. around half of US population (and even bigger share purchasing/consuming capacity wise) live on a coast not far from a major port.

2. container ship is 10g/tonne-km of CO2, ground truck 60g/tonne-km of CO2

3. Shanghai to LA - 10000km, Shanghai to New York - 17000km

So, it is simple math that container delivery from Shanghai plus 100-200km or even more of truck delivery from the port beats any cross-US truck delivery (for the US West it beats even half-cross-US truck delivery). Of course when it comes to the math vs. ideological politics - last season of Veep was brilliant about it :)