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Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by jarfil on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @12:38PM (#20811609)
It's cheaper to ship 10,000 items in a single container, than to ship each one separately, which is why mail carriers bundle items together (in bags, vans, containers, etc) instead of handling them separately all the way.

Domestic mail is like sending separate items, which get bundled together, then un-bundled again to deliver them to their final destination. All these steps happen at domestic wages, and at best with medium volumes. If there are not enough items to fill a container, it's still getting sent some other (more expensive) way.

Items from China get bundled by lower wage workers, the bundles are sent by lowest priority freight (usually a 7-45 day delay), bundles are only sent when fully filled in order to minimize costs per item, and sorted to minimize un-bundling costs.

This won't change no matter what, it's just economy of scale.

There are other factors like the reduced shipping costs for China set by the UN, or the fact that some will ship items at a loss just to convert Yuan to USD through Hong Kong, but ultimately the production vs. consumption imbalance is what decides most of this.

Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by xster on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @01:46PM (#20812484)
<in my mind>There's still humans in postal sorting centers?</>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjdpz05u2DY

omg...

Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by fhood on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @02:20PM (#20812844)
Basically has to be right? Even if the shipping labels were completely standardized, you still have to deal with irregular package dimensions, composition, and label locations. The sort of stuff that robots aren't so good at.
Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by Scoundreller on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @05:19PM (#20814484)
It doesn’t help that a lot of Chinese packages come in poly bags, which are a lot harder to OCR than a flat box or envelope.

But intl shipping is based strictly on weight, so senders have every incentive to cut weight wherever possible.

Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by magduf on Thursday August 29, 2019 @10:40AM (#20829881)
I don't see how poly bags offer any weight advantage over an envelope. The advantage they have is durability: paper envelopes get easily ripped open, whereas poly bags are nearly indestructible for about the same weight and size. I've also noticed that many shippers now print their mailing/customs label directly onto the poly bags, so that probably makes the shipping process faster and more automated.
Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by baybal2 on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @05:12PM (#20814444)
China had postal 2D barcodes for more than a decade...

Guys in the video seem to be showing the pile into sorting machines.

Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by lonelappde on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @12:47PM (#20811731)
This ignores the actual reason, which is that USPS charges less for China->US movement than domestic movement even after bundling like Amazon does at the warehouse.
Re:No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers by SmartJerry on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @09:49PM (#20816165)
Exactly this. It has nothing to do with the boat cost or economies of scale because once it arrives it has to still go that last mile - or last hundred miles within the U.S. the same as any package.