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Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by jonathansampson on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @02:06AM (#20806737)
Please clarify if I'm missing your point, but you can build Brave today. See github.com/brave/brave-browser. Let me know if you run into any issues.
Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by Vinnl on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @03:46AM (#20807168)
I think "reproducible builds" usually refers to being able to build Brave yourself, then creating a hash of the resulting artefact, and that hash being exactly the same as that of the built version Brave distributes itself.

In other words, being able to verify that the source code that is included in the build of Brave that Brave distributes, is the same as the source code we can view publicly.

Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by cnst on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @11:51PM (#20816640)
I don't see any mentions of reproducible builds over there.

If you're not familiar what reproducible builds are, I suggest you examine the following article:

* https://brendaneich.com/2014/01/trust-but-verify/

Mozilla, however, is different, in that all builds are posted to ftp.mozilla.org, in a versioned manner, and kept there for a while, which, at least in theory, makes it easier to verify or analyse the builds.

What is the situation with Brave? Can I download a version released a few months ago? As it is, the browser is not only not really versioned (at least in the binary form), but there's not even a way to disable it from automatically updating itself. Self-modifying code, where the user has no control over the channel under which the modifications are pushed, is inherently insecure from the reproducibility's perspective.

Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by jonathansampson on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:53AM (#20820365)
You can get older (and many incremental) builds from https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/tags. Hope this helps! There is desire within the team for reproducible builds, and I'll see to it that these coals are stoked. Our intent is to be as open, transparent, and accountable as we can be. Brave's mentality is "Can't be evil", as opposed to "Don't be evil." Thank you for the feedback!
Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by cnst on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @03:10PM (#20822980)
Those are Git tags; they have nothing to do with reproducible builds, because you're not providing the executable binaries that are the ones being distributed. It's a huge downgrade in terms of reproducibility of builds compared to Firefox. (It works for Google with Google Chrome because they have an entirely different business model where the whole thing is a walled-garden by design.)
Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by jonathansampson on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @04:42PM (#20823775)
Yes, I know those are Git tags. Click on them to find associated binaries. For instance, https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/releases/tag/v0.71.44. Not all tags have binaries, but most do. Those that reach a build channel always do.
Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by cnst on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:31PM (#20825145)
What a mess, seriously! What is the retention policy? How far into the past are the binaries stored?
Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by bpye on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @03:51AM (#20807211)
Reproducibile builds would mean that anyone could download the code for a specific release and build a binary that is identical to the one you provide - byte for byte. Is that possible?
Re:What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first ... by pabs3 on Tuesday August 27, 2019 @05:03AM (#20807555)
More info about reproducible builds is here:

https://reproducible-builds.org/