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Re:Major book publishers sue Amazon’s Audible over new speec... by ghaff on Monday August 26, 2019 @09:02AM (#20799502)
For your personal use? Yes as a practical matter. Probably as a legal one. The publisher/rights holder/distributor of the audio performance has no obligation to provide you with the means to do the conversion though and, to this case, if they don't own the rights probably can't do so as a bonus for the initial purchase.
Re:Major book publishers sue Amazon’s Audible over new speec... by TallGuyShort on Monday August 26, 2019 @10:39AM (#20800227)
I wonder how many months will elapse until Barnes & Noble has a page of fine print on everything stating that you're not buying the book, you're buying a revokable, non-exclusive license to possess the book, and that this license is voided if you attempt to do anything with the book except scan the words using biological optical sensors your possessed at birth into short-term memory only, and violation of this license is subject to...
Re:Major book publishers sue Amazon’s Audible over new speec... by derefr on Monday August 26, 2019 @10:23AM (#20800079)
The distributor can’t distribute it as part of the offering, sure; but I don’t see why they can’t offer it as a freestanding software utility that happens to be easily accessible from their distribution platform. It’s not a “bonus for the initial purchase” in that case; it’s just something they coincidentally happen to offer, that you might happen to already have installed, or install later.
Re:Major book publishers sue Amazon’s Audible over new speec... by ghaff on Monday August 26, 2019 @10:46AM (#20800287)
As a legal matter, maybe. You can start to get onto shaky ground when you provide something that's explicitly marketed for some infringing purpose.

I'm not sure how useful any of this is anyway though. I took another look at Amazon Transcribe a couple weeks ago and reached the conclusion that its transcriptions are still pretty bad compared to a human doing it. You get the general gist so long as it's a clean recording but there are lots of errors.

Standalone software is going to be even worse.

Imperfect captioning is better than nothing in some cases. But who wants to read a book--much less use it as a learning tool--when there are errors every other sentence?

ADDED: It really doesn't seem like much of a threat to publishers in its current form. Probably lots of errors and the text is only delivered a few lines at a time as the book is read aloud. However, I can see publishers looking down the road and imagining much improved ML transcription and larger blocks of text as something that's legally indistinguishable.

Re:Major book publishers sue Amazon’s Audible over new speec... by dagw on Monday August 26, 2019 @10:42AM (#20800261)
I don’t see why they can’t offer it as a freestanding software utility that happens to be easily accessible from their distribution platform.

Really the only actual answer to that question is because a lawyer convinced a judge to say that they can't. If they can get a better lawyer and/or a different judge then maybe all of sudden they can.