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Re:Car theft by relaying signals from wireless keys by JoachimSchipper on Friday January 07, 2011 @07:31AM (#2079355)
This comes after e.g. the KeeLoq debacle: see http://dblp.mpi-inf.mpg.de/dblp-mirror/index.php?query=keelo.... Summary: cryptographically securing remote car keys/garage openers is an improvement (older products just broadcast the password), but badly implementing outdated custom algorithms is... not as useful as the car industry seems to hope.

I'll stick with "real" keys for a while yet.

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Re:Car theft by relaying signals from wireless keys by nobody_nowhere on Friday January 07, 2011 @08:56AM (#2079505)
Do they still sell new cars with traditional keys?
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Re:Car theft by relaying signals from wireless keys by JoachimSchipper on Friday January 07, 2011 @09:08AM (#2079543)
If you look at e.g. http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/3series/sedan/2008/all... and click the second icon under the image, "comfort access" - this seems to be optional. And we're not talking a thirty-year old Skoda here.
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Re:Car theft by relaying signals from wireless keys by nobody_nowhere on Friday January 07, 2011 @09:56AM (#2079689)
Ah. I was just thinking of keyless entry (which is definitely standard on that BMW), rather than the keyless start.
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