Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
by jki275 on Saturday August 24, 2019 @10:12PM
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Ok, since you don't like my phrasing, the argument from the slave states was that slaves should count, which would have given them greater representation.
My statements stand.
Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
by dragonwriter on Sunday August 25, 2019 @10:34AM
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> My statements stand.
No, they don't, because they assume the slave state argument wasn't just their argument but a privileged default position, such that giving them something that was a compromise between what they wanted and what the free states wanted was a harm to them from the privileged default and not an inducement to keep them in.
Re:15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
by jki275 on Monday August 26, 2019 @07:55AM
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To be clear, there was no "privileged default", the "default" was that everyone counted. The 3/5 compromise was forced on the slave states to reduce their power from the default. It was not an "inducement", they were forced into it.
No, there is no basis for even asserting that there was a standard, much less that the standard was that property, whether slaves, cattle, or horseshoes, would count for representation purposes.