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Re:Apple contractors listened to 1k Siri recordings per shif... by eloisius on Saturday August 24, 2019 @04:32PM (#20789532)
>If you want to improve your voice recognition, then you need to have a ground truth

This is true, but that doesn't automatically make it okay for them to offload this expensive resource to their customers without making it transparent that they were doing so.

>This is literally what google voice was for

Who cares? It's completely expected from Google, they use their customer data to do everything. I expect more from Apple. They have a (so far) great track record of protecting their customer's privacy. I fully expect Google, Facebook, et al to be doing ML on my photos, and that's why I'm bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of Google's. I value that my data is private more than being bombarded with stupid "collections" that the Google Assistant puts together with AI.

I really hope this doesn't indicate a new direction for Apple.

Re:Apple contractors listened to 1k Siri recordings per shif... by myko on Saturday August 24, 2019 @05:31PM (#20789835)
> I expect more from Apple.

I expect them to improve their voice recognition which is way behind essentially everyone else's, especially Google's. There's nothing wrong with improving the tech in this manner as long as user's aren't surprised by it.

The fact that people are surprised by it is a problem though.

Re:Apple contractors listened to 1k Siri recordings per shif... by blub on Sunday August 25, 2019 @02:43AM (#20791697)
This is not Python, where the principle of least surprise applies :)

Given the way this is being debated, it's almost certainly undesired by customers and even potentially problematic under the GDPR.

Re:Apple contractors listened to 1k Siri recordings per shif... by KaiserPro on Saturday August 24, 2019 @04:45PM (#20789597)
As I said at the end of my post, I have a memory of them saying that they took sample for training. But thats hazy, given it must have launched >8 years ago.

but, given their recent drive, they should have asked for permission

Re:Apple contractors listened to 1k Siri recordings per shif... by dpkonofa on Saturday August 24, 2019 @07:31PM (#20790351)
>I expect more from Apple.

They haven't done anything with your data, though, that doesn't show they 100% value your privacy. None of these recordings are identifiable and they're scrapped once they're audited. If you turn off Siri functionality, they're all automatically deleted whether they've been audited or not.

This is all addressed on the Siri screen right before you train Siri to recognize "Hey Siri".

Re:Apple contractors listened to 1k Siri recordings per shif... by jsizzle on Saturday August 24, 2019 @09:03PM (#20790710)
Can you elaborate on how turning off Siri deletes the recordings? Could someone use Siri, then right after turn it off to prevent Apple from storing the recording?