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Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by jasonwatkinspdx on Saturday August 24, 2019 @01:20PM (#20788400)
The efficiency of flash doesn't matter much if I have to wait for it to physically get to me, vs just opening up my browser.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by liability on Saturday August 24, 2019 @01:23PM (#20788416)
People binge-watching a TV series could certainly anticipate their near-future media demands and download the series through means other than cellular networks. Downloading video and storing it on flash memory could eliminate a huge chunk of the demand for streamed video.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by godelski on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:19PM (#20788760)
Streaming is just downloading in order. Data downloads while I watch/listen. That's super convenient. That's the big advantage of streaming. Keeping that data or dumping that data is a different issue.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by liability on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:46PM (#20788944)
Streaming is downloading, but without the timeshifting properties you get from storing the media to flash. With properly downloadable media, you can download in the evening, on your wired residential connection, and watch during the day when you only have a cellular connection.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by godelski on Saturday August 24, 2019 @07:41PM (#20790399)
Conventional downloading methods do not order the packets. So you can watch/listen during the downloading process.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by deanCommie on Saturday August 24, 2019 @01:39PM (#20788500)
They could, but...they don't want to. So they won't!
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by liability on Saturday August 24, 2019 @01:41PM (#20788504)
You don't know that. Currently consumers don't have the (legal) option, so extrapolating their current behavior to their potential desires is fallacious.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by scottlegrand2 on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:08PM (#20788666)
I download entire seasons of TV series with my Android Netflix client all the time. It's fantastic for travel.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by majormajor on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:03PM (#20788642)
I could've been doing this with iTunes for TV shows for years.

It would be way less convenient, though. So I don't. I don't know which device I'll end up watching on, and don't want to deal with syncing and all that shit.

Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by liability on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:40PM (#20788894)
> iTunes for TV shows for years.

Which is way more expensive than streaming services. Prohibitively so for wide swaths of the general population who don't have tech industry salaries. The cost of one TV show from iTunes can approach the price of several months of Netflix.

With copyright reform, that needn't be the case.

(Note that for many consumers, Netflix is already considered too expensive. Several people sharing the cost of one account is pretty common from what I've seen.)

Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by lern_too_spel on Saturday August 24, 2019 @03:07PM (#20789053)
Netflix and Amazon Prime Video already offer the ability to download and play later, so there is no need to extrapolate, and we do know that.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by liability on Saturday August 24, 2019 @03:18PM (#20789113)
As I understand it, those features come with considerable DRM limitations. So no, it's really not the same.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by lern_too_spel on Sunday August 25, 2019 @12:23PM (#20793787)
They don't come with any practical limitations, so it is really the same.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by wideasleep1 on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:24PM (#20788789)
Netflix has downloads.
Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by godelski on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:18PM (#20788743)
Alright, so I should just download a significant portion of YouTube and news websites because I may want to watch those videos randomly? Or I have to wait to get home. Unless we're talking about terabytes of storage on my phone, I don't think this is feasible (for all the video and music I could want at a given time).

Fact is that streaming is just convenient. Like really convenient. I wish there was more stuff that I could download and listen to offline, but it's naive to suggest that streaming has no advantages. We stream while data connected because we download things in an ordered manner (vs how normal downloading is done). That's nice that I don't have to wait for a full movie or song to be completely downloaded to listen to it.

Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by liability on Saturday August 24, 2019 @02:38PM (#20788882)
Is there any particular reason why your phone or laptop couldn't opportunistically download all the latest videos from your YouTube subscriptions on WiFi while you sleep?

Maybe you don't subscribe to channels and the system could never anticipate your whims and desires... but I wager it would work great for most users.

Re:Cities Are Saying ‘No’ to 5G, Citing Health, Aesthetics, ... by godelski on Saturday August 24, 2019 @07:47PM (#20790425)
I subscribe to a lot of things but I'm not quite sold on the predictive algorithms. Mostly because the recommendations I get aren't really what I want. I have this problem with YouTube, Netflix (which used to be spot on), Spotify, and prime. So I'm not sure if I really trust their prediction models.