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Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by npo9 on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:33PM (#20780911)
I am anti housing projects. To me, creating a housing projects is like sweeping the problem under the rug. It concentrates poverty and crime into the area in/around the projects.
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by SomeOtherThrow on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:49PM (#20781116)
A) ghettoization in the form you describe is a zoning problem. Mixed-rate zoning is a thing, even in major cities in the US, and there's no reason social housing needs to be geographically isolated from market rate housing. As you point out, that's really unhealthy. I submit that the US has just implemented public housing extremely poorly, especially on the federal level, and Section 8 vouchers are going to be a much larger bill to pay to the American taxpayer than simply building public housing to begin with.

B) From a healthcare perspective, both housing and rehabilitation are necessary for the person to be able to function stably. I would argue that this type of housing as well as drug decriminalization is necessary to treat the underlying poverty (and resulting crime).

EDIT: wording.

Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by Spooky23 on Friday August 23, 2019 @03:39PM (#20781744)
This is why nothing gets done.

- Dealing with petty crime that makes everyone miserable is insensitive to the homeless/addicts/etc who are stealing people's stuff and selling it.

- We should send people to provide garbage pickup to people occupying spaces that don't belong to them, but make sure that they aren't disturbed.

- We should be housing first, but not with housing projects.

What would you suggest be done?

Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by shados on Friday August 23, 2019 @04:03PM (#20781993)
Obviously, we need to make sure NO ONE has any kind of quality of life. Large US cities should keep being shit shows and keep getting worse for everyone until 100% of people, no matter their socioeconomic situation, can live like kings.
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by ianai on Sunday August 25, 2019 @12:36AM (#20791385)
I can’t tell what you are communicating.
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by thomasmeeks on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:50PM (#20781126)
Seattle spreads the housing projects around the city. In fact they just opened one in the South Lake Union area last year (just behind the Neptune apartments). They replaced a parking lot with something like 10-15 sheds for housing. They are in the 100-150 sq ft range, have electricity and a shared bathroom(s). I'm a touch fuzzy on the particulars because they also erect a very tall privacy fence around the whole thing, which feels like a good idea if for no other reason than a touch of privacy for its residents.
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by rdtwo on Friday August 23, 2019 @03:20PM (#20781522)
Not really they are still mostly concentrated in pockets because developers are allowed to buy out of building subsidized housing units
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by ianai on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:54PM (#20781200)
I’m glad to learn some places are doing this!
Re:In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs by deepakhj on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:50PM (#20781132)
I don’t think anyone wants the projects of the 50-70s. See the navigation centers in sf. It works.