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Re:Plastics: What's Recyclable, What Becomes Trash and Why by TeMPOraL on Thursday August 22, 2019 @05:07AM (#20766072)
I know what you mean. You can still buy cheap incandescent bulbs where I live, despite EU-wide phaseout, because they're clearly labeled "not for domestic use"...

But this shows that regulating the market is not a "fire and forget" deal, but an iterative process. First you make the main bad thing more expensive than good behavior. Then you look for "life finding a way", "clever entrepreneurs" abusing loopholes, and make those more expensive too, one by one. You end when you hit diminishing returns.

Re:Plastics: What's Recyclable, What Becomes Trash and Why by 18pfsmt on Thursday August 22, 2019 @06:30PM (#20772973)
Eventually you create a black market like drug cartels and the Russian mob. Perhaps we should legalize narcotics and sell them in Walgreens and CVS instead of "subsidizing" SPECTRE.

"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers." -Princess Leia

Re:Plastics: What's Recyclable, What Becomes Trash and Why by nardi on Thursday August 22, 2019 @08:25PM (#20773638)
For plastic? Lol.

The point isn’t to eliminate literally all plastic use. It’s to save the freaking planet. Taxing plastics based on their harm to the environment has the capability to drastically decrease their use, and possibly (help) save the planet.

Re:Plastics: What's Recyclable, What Becomes Trash and Why by TeMPOraL on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:35AM (#20775012)
> Eventually you create a black market like drug cartels and the Russian mob.

Not necessarily. These kinds of black markets form around things with specific demand profiles; plastic for packaging and disposable goods isn't one of them. Also, I'm not talking about putting people in jail for this, just making the whole thing much more expensive (through taxation and maybe extra bureaucracy). People aren't gonna start dealing plastic forks and individually plastic-wrapped cookies on the black market; they simply aren't gonna bother making them and switch to different materials.