Thoughts on Rust bloat

Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by sanderjd on Thursday August 22, 2019 @12:51AM (#20764735)

There's a cost to discovering the consensus choices that I think inclusion in a standard lib minimizes. But there may be other similarly good ways to accomplish this. If I'm remembering correctly, doesn't Rust have a set of libraries that aren't in the standard library but are somehow vouched for? Maybe that's a similarly good approach to solve the discovery problem, I'm not sure.

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by steveklabnik on Thursday August 22, 2019 @01:44AM (#20765012)

There are libraries that are maintained by the project itself, but are not part of the standard library, yes.

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by sanderjd on Thursday August 22, 2019 @03:36AM (#20765551)

Ok thanks. Is the intention for that to grow, as a curated set of libraries that isn't quite the standard library? Or so you think some of those will move into the standard library if they become canonical or stable enough?

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by steveklabnik on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:00AM (#20768832)

We’ll see; it’s not a simple thing.

In theory they can move into the standard library, but none ever have. The process exists though.

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by raphlinus on Thursday August 22, 2019 @01:15PM (#20770308)

I can think of a bunch of stuff that has moved or is moving from third party crates into the standard library: parking_lot, hashbrown, (minimal) Future trait. But I agree that no crate has moved wholesale into the standard lib.

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by steveklabnik on Thursday August 22, 2019 @03:03PM (#20771340)

parking lot and hashbrown moved their internals, replacing ones that already existed. This is probably a distinction that doesn’t actually matter but in my head it’s different for some reason, thanks for pointing it out :)

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by kd5bjo on Thursday August 22, 2019 @03:46AM (#20765629)

Is there a list of these somewhere? Crates.io doesn’t appear to let me sort by author.

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by throwupaway123 on Thursday August 22, 2019 @09:59AM (#20768109)

This is the GitHub repository

https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/

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Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat by steveklabnik on Thursday August 22, 2019 @10:59AM (#20768828)

We’re in the process of deprecating the nursery, so they’ll end up in the rust-lang org at some point.

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