Re:Thoughts on Rust bloat
by giancarlostoro on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @11:22PM
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> but having a package system shouldn't be a substitute for designing a useful standard library for a language.
Completely agree. I hold firm to the believe that a strong standard library that considers modern software development goals will drive the success of a language.
Look at Go. Which is usually my example since not many do what Go does. You can do a whole web application in Go with minimal use (if any) of external libraries.
Back to Rust and their defense: they intend to adopt popular / quality packages from Cargo into the standard library or fill the gap between packages.
I secretly wish D had similar things to Go in the standard library. HTTP and SMTP etc which Python seems to have at least HTTP and sadly Go ditched their SMTP package for whatever reason making it awkward.
I hate having to learn a new package manager per new language. I love programming so I try a lot of languages out of love. Package managers and build systems are horrible UX in every language. I prefer to not rely on third party oh look now deprecated packages and start out with whats out of the box.
Completely agree. I hold firm to the believe that a strong standard library that considers modern software development goals will drive the success of a language.
Look at Go. Which is usually my example since not many do what Go does. You can do a whole web application in Go with minimal use (if any) of external libraries.
Back to Rust and their defense: they intend to adopt popular / quality packages from Cargo into the standard library or fill the gap between packages.
I secretly wish D had similar things to Go in the standard library. HTTP and SMTP etc which Python seems to have at least HTTP and sadly Go ditched their SMTP package for whatever reason making it awkward.
I hate having to learn a new package manager per new language. I love programming so I try a lot of languages out of love. Package managers and build systems are horrible UX in every language. I prefer to not rely on third party oh look now deprecated packages and start out with whats out of the box.