Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

Re:Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Ko... by ackbar03 on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @08:25PM (#20763440)

Totally agree and glad this comment is at the top, so many western commentators don't understand this. The Chinese people are aware they live in a autocratic regime but they didn't build up their country into an economic powerhouse by complaining about freedom of speech all day like western countries. They put their head down and got to work and made do with what they had. When ridiculous censorship rules like banning Winnie the pooh images were imposed they just made jokes about it instead of throwing a tantrum. That being said I concur it is possible that in the long term too much autocratic power to its rulers could lead to blowback the day the people at the top truly lose their minds but the ccp has generally been quite competent compared to what we might see at the white house (although I guess this is debatable). I think Hong Kong could learn a thing or two from the Chinese people

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Re:Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Ko... by pimmen on Thursday August 22, 2019 @03:52AM (#20765659)

I think this narrative is very misleading.

They did complain a lot about how the CCP plunged the country into the largest famine in history because of their incompetence. It was this incompetence that led to the rise of Deng Xiaoping. Mao then launched the Cultural Revolution during which different factions in the CCP fought with each other rather than "keep their head down". At Tiananmen Square in 1976 millions of people, peasants and rich, shouted slogans attacking Mao and the Gang of Four. Deng Xiaoping then launched the economic miracle by reducing CCP involvement in the economy .

To say that the history of modern China is a long, stable period where the people never spoke up and built a powerhouse economy by listening to the directives of the all knowing CCP is historical revisionism at best.

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Re:Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Ko... by nailer on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @08:38PM (#20763500)

I thought Chinese economic gain was due to the US government opening up relations with the Chinese government as a way of countering the Soviet Union. I'm not sure how much credit the Chinese Communist Party deserves for that.

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Re:Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Ko... by liuliu on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @10:13PM (#20764006)

There are certain ironies. I don't think you can attribute the initial growth in 1980s to the U.S. investments. The initial growth in 1980s was largely driven by Hong Kong and Taiwan investments.

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Re:Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Ko... by nailer on Thursday August 22, 2019 @09:10AM (#20767612)

How did HK investment affect PRC? Through Shenzen becoming a commercial hub?

What about TW? I'm not seeing the connection to the PRC there.

Money wouldn't have flown into PRC (and it would have collapsed with the rest of the communism) if the US hadn't opened up investment.

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