Apple's operating systems mistreat or harm the user

Re:Apple's operating systems mistreat or harm the user by Fnoord on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @12:24PM (#20748768)

> MacOS High Sierra forcibly reformats SSD boot drives, and changes the file system from HFS+ to APFS, which cannot be accessed from GNU/Linux, Windows or even older versions of MacOS.

It is important to be accurate.

You can access APFS from Windows or Linux at at least Paragon APFS for Windows, and Paragon APFS for Linux. There is also an experimental AFFS FUSE driver.

This can actually be important in case of forensics.

[1] https://www.paragon-software.com/home/apfs-windows/#

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Re:Apple's operating systems mistreat or harm the user by kirb on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @05:40AM (#20755757)

Worth noting the hfsplus driver in Linux can only mount as read-only, unless you manually mount it with the flag to force it to ignore the journal... which is a silly idea when journaling is what makes modern filesystems so resilient. apfs-fuse is actually in a more promising position than hfsplus, as it supports mounting any volume in the APFS partition, FileVault encrypted volumes, and Fusion Drive volumes. Granted no distro is shipping apfs-fuse that I know of. They probably could at this point as it is read-only.

https://github.com/sgan81/apfs-fuse

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Re:Apple's operating systems mistreat or harm the user by Fnoord on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @08:25AM (#20756631)

Paragon also sell a proprietary HFS+ driver for Linux which AFAIK r/w. For forensics, r/o is enough though.

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