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Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by pja on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:28AM (#20737116)
When Tesla's competitors stop designing and electric car and start designing a really great car that just happens to be electric then Tesla will have competition. Until then all the supposed Tesla competitors will be a joke.

BMW electric Mini is due to go on the market in spring 2020 - they’re manufacturing them now in Oxford. I guess that counts as a 'real electric car'. Whether it’s a great one remains to be seen.

Range is not as great as the 3 (150 vs 210 miles IIRC?) but it’s a smaller car, so doesn’t have as much room for batteries as the 3 or S do.

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Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by bryanlarsen on Monday August 19, 2019 @09:07AM (#20737353)
The EPA range of the electric mini is 114 miles, the Model 3LR is 310 miles. Make sure you use the same measurement standard when comparing vehicles: the WLTP standard massively overstates range.
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Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by pja on Monday August 19, 2019 @10:04AM (#20737816)
The LR version of the model 3 costs a lot more than the Mini is projected to cost. Even the stock Model 3 costs £12k more than the currently planned price of the electric Mini (both including UK electric car grants.)

That’s why I compared the Mini with the range of the ordinary Model 3 & not the LR version. The price difference between the stock models is wide enough already - it seems completely unreasonable to compare a £25k electric vehicle with a £45k one!

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Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by bryanlarsen on Monday August 19, 2019 @12:02PM (#20738922)
In the US, the Tesla 3SR+ is $39K with a 220 mile range, and the electric Mini is projected to start at $35K-$38K with a 114 mile range. I don't expect the electric Mini to sell well in North America.
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Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by makomk on Monday August 19, 2019 @09:53AM (#20737736)
The Long Range version of the Model 3 is almost twice the price of the electric Mini, so I'm not sure those are really comparable.
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Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by tirant on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:59AM (#20737307)
I would say for the Mini range is not as important as for a Model 3. They are supposed to be city cars with a very specific design and great handling. They are usually way more expensive than competition with similar specs, but still sell a lot because of those two traits.
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