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Re:Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' o... by privateSFacct on Sunday August 18, 2019 @05:14PM (#20732928)
Totally false. And using fear in politics is nothing new. The US now has tariffs on Canada because of the "risk" Canada poses to national security.

The idea that the UK crumbles (the document has things like cancer patients dying, folks with diabetes dying - its just an incredible list) seems far fetched. The UK operated prior to the EU without all these disasters.

Re:Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' o... by alkonaut on Sunday August 18, 2019 @05:24PM (#20732986)
> The UK operated prior to the EU without all these disasters.

This is true. But what’s discussed is how difficult it is to untangle 40 years of ever tighter integration. Decades ago things weren’t made in british factories using parts delivered just in time to be assembled, from multiple European supplier factories. No one is arguing that it’s impossible for Britain to function outside the EU. But “it worked before” isn’t an argument that leaving won’t be a disaster.

Taking the same argument ad absurdum: Britain used to operate without electricity and cars. Now there is a hundred years of electricity and cars integrated into every corner of British society so if cars and electricity was suddenly removed, it would take a long time for Britain to adapt to the new old system of candles and horses. It would work (it has operated that way before) but it would be a disaster for quite some time. An initial shortage of horses and candles wouldn’t be the only problem.

Re:Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' o... by jashmatthews on Sunday August 18, 2019 @05:31PM (#20733046)
> folks with diabetes dying

Back in 1975 things were very different. We didn't have recombinant insulin and diabetics died much more often.

It's not like we can flip a switch and go back to 1975, but keeping everything from 2019 running.

Re:Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' o... by pmlnr on Sunday August 18, 2019 @05:24PM (#20732985)
Go and talk to your elders about pre 1970 UK. I did. Regular 3 day power outages were common as a start.
Re:Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' o... by renaudg on Sunday August 18, 2019 @06:20PM (#20733328)
This is like saying it's easy to refactor a huge codebase to strip a critical software component from it overnight, because 40 years ago you used to have a standalone version that didn't require it.
Re:Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' o... by privateSFacct on Monday August 19, 2019 @10:40PM (#20743414)
Actually - if I can get totally illegal drugs in the UK, I suspect that if market forces work the same way for legal drugs as they do for illegal, folks who face death without their drugs will find a way to get supply of those drugs.

And it will be totally appalling if the EU to prove a point blocks shipments of those drugs.

This is a chance for the US perhaps to get in with some timely shipments using the US military or other govt resources. Could save lots of UK lives while the EU let's their neighbors die.

Re:Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' o... by renaudg on Thursday August 22, 2019 @05:46PM (#20772679)
It sounds like you're either trolling or deeply confused about what's going on.

The EU is not threatening to block shipments of anything nor to "let their neighbors die". It's the UK government that seems intent on imposing economic sanctions unto itself by leaving the single market.

Actually, the closest thing to suggesting to let neighbors die was these outrageous comments by UK Home Secretary Priti Patel a few weeks ago (https://www.joe.ie/news/british-politician-says-uk-threaten-...), suggesting to cause food shortages in Ireland in order to pressure them to drop the backstop. To anyone who knows history between the 2 countries (actual famine in Ireland caused by Britain centuries ago), this is abhorrent.