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Re:Hiring Is Broken: What Do Developers Say About Technical ... by WalterBright on Thursday August 15, 2019 @06:02PM (#20710144)
> I'm not sure I see how someone [...]

I understand, it isn't intuitive. I hope my analogy of someone well trained in art, yet still can't paint worth a damn, makes sense.

Or pilots who ace all the pre-flight training, yet simply are too uncoordinated to fly well. (That's me. I know all about flying, yet should never be in the pilot's seat.)

Some people are just unable to synthesis good code out of all their knowledge.

Re:Hiring Is Broken: What Do Developers Say About Technical ... by staticassertion on Thursday August 15, 2019 @06:39PM (#20710405)
I don't really like arguing analogies. I'm not convinced that a take home + code review is easily gamed.
Re:Hiring Is Broken: What Do Developers Say About Technical ... by WalterBright on Thursday August 15, 2019 @07:36PM (#20710748)
I've seen it happen often enough to know. It's not that hard - just read the code you copied until you understand how it works.
Re:Hiring Is Broken: What Do Developers Say About Technical ... by staticassertion on Thursday August 15, 2019 @07:38PM (#20710762)
If they understand how it works well enough to go through a code review and modify it based on that code review, what's the problem? That just... sounds like what your work is going to be.
Re:Hiring Is Broken: What Do Developers Say About Technical ... by WalterBright on Thursday August 15, 2019 @09:27PM (#20711373)
> what's the problem?

Good question. Like I said elsewhere in this thread, there are many people who are knowledgeable and intelligent about coding, but cannot code. They are different skills. I've met many people like this.

I could study Romeo+Juliet and know everything about it that lit professors know. But I could never write it.

For another example, from my time at Boeing, the engineers were divided into two independent groups. One group designed, the other group analyzed and checked the designs. They were different skills, and the engineers would gravitate to whichever path best suited them.

Re:Hiring Is Broken: What Do Developers Say About Technical ... by staticassertion on Thursday August 15, 2019 @11:35PM (#20711974)
My point is more that if they can do all of those things and "game" the interview they seem like a good hire.