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Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by charlesdm on Thursday August 15, 2019 @01:53PM (#20707735)
The short answer to that question is yes. A good CEO will invest $200 million in a good asset (i.e. factory), resulting in a great return for the organisation. A bad CEO will invest $200 million in a bad asset (i.e. Tumblr, $1.1bn -> $3m) and lose their shirt.

Say the decision of the good CEO makes the company $100m. How much is he worth? A lot.

Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by devoply on Thursday August 15, 2019 @01:56PM (#20707773)
You invest in assets using tools like NPV. CEOs don't have crystal balls. Some might have a gut instinct, but then they are no different than your gambling stock trader... who might be up today and down tomorrow. It's a function of luck, not a function of ability. You have founders like Stuart Butterfield who can claim over 2-3 successes to make products worth billions. I doubt most CEOs could do the same thing.
Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by charlesdm on Thursday August 15, 2019 @01:58PM (#20707801)
You're basically saying good investors don't exist and everything is priced to perfection? This could range from investing in equipment, to expanding in a new business line, to acquiring a competitor and realising synergies that someone else would not have noticed. Putting 1 and 1 together in specific business focus areas might result in 3 for the well trained eye or the smart mind.

Plenty of people are good at investing (understanding how it all ties together, and understanding how they take risk) outside of the public markets. And plenty are horrible (i.e. mom and pop investing in the mutual funds of your bank).

Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by rootusrootus on Thursday August 15, 2019 @02:07PM (#20707934)
> saying good investors don't exist

I am probably misremembering many key details here, but didn't Bogle make a pretty good case for this?

Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by Falling3 on Thursday August 15, 2019 @03:01PM (#20708506)
The question wasn't what pay was deserved for a _good CEO_. It was whether a a raise was deserved simply by being a CEO. And the fact you're pointing out - such a large difference in results between a good and bad CEO - points to the answer being "no", not "yes".
Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by devcpp on Thursday August 15, 2019 @03:26PM (#20708764)
As with all things, it's a matter of demand and offer. If a potential CEO has a choice between a company that pays well no matter what, and a gamble which could leave him out of a job and without money, he'll choose the sure outcome. On the other hand, a good CEO is such an important thing that companies will bend over backwards to meet their demands. So they do that. A few million bucks is cheap change for potentially higher earnings.

You might argue that incentivizing CEOs should be more important than getting a good one, but you'll have to ask shareholders at major companies why they don't insist on that instead.

Whether this is "deserved" or not is irrelevant. What matters is profitability, not fairness.

Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by charlesdm on Thursday August 15, 2019 @03:12PM (#20708625)
So how should a CEO be compensated then, if you're so sure the answer here is no instead of yes?
Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by RobertDeNiro on Thursday August 15, 2019 @02:04PM (#20707891)
Sounds like it should be entirely commission based ? I don't think anyone sees an issue if you get a share of the amount you generated, but getting large salary without having achieved anything seems a bit unreasonable.
Re:CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978 by criddell on Thursday August 15, 2019 @02:14PM (#20708010)
I think that's the idea behind compensating with equity. The problem with that is it can lead to short-term thinking.