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Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by jandrese on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @12:00AM (#20692618)
Yeah, someone would have to leave a Raspberry Pi zero sized chunk of explosive out to put up a boot screen and something close enough to a windows boot logo to pass a cursory visual inspection.

In reality, the X-Ray should already make it pretty clear if there is something weird about the laptop's build. Turning on the machine is entirely unnecessary. Also, I have not been asked to turn on a laptop in many years, so unless this is a new development it is badly out of date.

Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by Iolaum on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:45AM (#20693234)
The metal casing of many laptops reflects the xrays, hence you can't see anything inside them.
Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by Reason077 on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @05:21AM (#20693889)
At many airports you can see the x-ray images of the bags and devices as they are scanned/checked.

In my experience there is always a detailed image of the inside of laptops. Color-coded according to material type/density and clearly showing the location of batteries, etc.

Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @07:49AM (#20694506)
I'd imagine the batteries being switched for plastic explosive would be a simple way to take explosives onboard for unsophisticated attackers, turning on rules out that possibility. Not everyone who wants to blow stuff up is a hacker.
Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by Reason077 on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @08:05AM (#20694604)
Wouldn’t plastic explosive have a different density to real batteries, and thus show up very obviously on the scanner?

The machines are tuned to highlight specific risky materials (such as liquids & gels).

At one point it was common to be asked to turn on laptops etc. But I haven’t seen them do that for years - presumably because the scanners have improved.

Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @03:17PM (#20698953)
LiPo laptop battery is apparently around 1.8-2 g/cm3 (sorry can't find good figures), whilst C4 is 1.73 g/cm3. Not sure what the density resolution is like -- I'd guess it's poor because you can't tell what thickness/type of casing you're looking through from the luggage "xray"; I'd imagine it to be primarily good at relative density.
Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by gmueckl on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @03:55AM (#20693515)
X-Rays can pass through thick chunks of metal several times the thickness of a laptop. You just need a powerful enough source. I doubt however that such a source can be used safely in an enclosure as open as the securiry check machines.
Re:FAA Bans Recalled Apple Laptops from Flights by warrenm on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @11:15AM (#20696406)
Not even close to true - just look at the scan monitor next time you fly: you can clearly see inside any electronics going through the scanner