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Re:Urgent/11 – Zero Day Vulnerabilities Impacting VxWorks by jaclaz on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @01:26PM (#20688042)
Sure, but then I would have expected a "reason" provided by Armis Labs, i.e. something like:

>... which are used by selected critical infrastructure industries such as transportation ...

... as they do not contain the vulnerable TCP/IP stack.

Re:Urgent/11 – Zero Day Vulnerabilities Impacting VxWorks by jschwartzi on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @02:30PM (#20688833)
No, that still fits with my experience. In the safety-critical realm anything that casts doubt on your claims of robustness, reliability, or safety such as a TCP/IP stack vulnerability opens you up to a lawsuit.

What will happen is you'll purchase a certificate for the RTOS kernel plus a few critical components. Then you can choose to use any other off-the-shelf components that the vendor or third parties provide. Those parts don't have to be safety-critical, but if a defect is found in uncertified software it's not VxWorks's problem.

VxWorks is very clearly and concisely stating that the safety-critical certified components are not affected. But they're not going to make statements about the systems their safety-critical clients built. That's not their responsibility. And Armis is almost certainly reprinting a statement from VxWorks. Both Armis and VxWorks are leaving it up to each VxWorks customer to determine whether their particular configuration of Safety-Critical VxWorks uses a vulnerable stack as an add-on.

Re:Urgent/11 – Zero Day Vulnerabilities Impacting VxWorks by jaclaz on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @03:00PM (#20689103)
Well, that Armis labs is reprinting a statement from VxWorks is a possibility, but the statement is on Armis page, and sounds like they themselves wrote it, since it is an announcement on discovered (by Armis) vulnerabilities, there are as I see it two possibilities:

1) Armis tested those certified environments and couldn't replicate the bugs

2) Armis did not test those certified environments and reprinted the VxWorks statement

If #2 they should have written instead "we could not test the vulnerabilities on the "certified" versions but we believe in VxWorks' assurance that they are not vulnerable (because ... )"