I don't think this conversation can proceed because I don't consider anyone who actively posts on HN as average.
Re:Anxiety Looks Different in Men
by lazyasciiart on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @12:25PM
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You should be able to point to a group you do consider average and demonstrate some evidence for your assertion that way.
Pick any group of feminists and ask them to rate the offensiveness of the terms "toxic masculinity" and "toxic femininity".
I'm guessing you'd find a significant discrepancy in the direction of "toxic for thee but not for me"
I admitedly think I'm pretty average and I've only seen toxic masculinity describing behavior that's clearly harmfully based on false notions of man's role in society such as what is listed above. Due to this, I've never gained the conclusion that toxic masculinity is a term to describe men as toxic.
Could you explain what the logic is that toxic masculinity is a descriptor that men are toxic, given the above?