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Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by elliekelly on Monday August 12, 2019 @05:24PM (#20680173)
> it creates a huge number of potential issues with app stores, payment providers, trust and safety...

I completely understand that “Adult Content” can cause a ton of headaches for a business but Tumblr’s current definition of “Adult Content” is very broad and I hope when the transaction is complete you’ll at least be open to reviewing the scope of the definition. Right now it includes many things that aren’t adult at all, like “female presenting nipples” which could be seen by children on many beaches in Europe and even on the streets of Boston and New York City. It also includes illustrations of genitalia or sex acts which can be found in biology textbooks and many magazines like Cosmo. The instruction leaflet that comes in a box of tampons wouldn’t currently be permitted on Tumblr. That doesn’t seem right to me nor does it seem like that sort of content would pose any risk to Tumblr’s operations.

I understand where you’re coming from with the adult content but I do also hope you’ll consider liberating the definition a bit. I actually think Tumblr is pretty well positioned to be the “next Instagram” for many young women today who would really appreciate a major social media platform recognizing that Kama Sutra illustrations or a photo of a woman’s nipple is no big deal, it’s just natural.

Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by mattmanser on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @05:12AM (#20683948)
I don't know if you've ever been to Europe, but the number of topless beaches are low and you won't see women walking around without a top on the street. It's not taboo-less, nipples are still sexual.

Nipples seems a pretty silly thing to start focusing on when he clearly said they weren't interested in adult content.

Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by joeyprr on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @06:50AM (#20684426)
I'm from Europe and I've visited quite a few countries in Europe, and to me it seems like it's pretty normal to be topless on _any_ beach... Spain, Portugal, France, the Netherlands, Greece...
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by pluma on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @07:32AM (#20684703)
Add Belgium to the list. And East Germany.

EDIT: Generally I'd say in Europe while women's breasts are sexualised, they're not considered sexually explicit. The US is exceptionally prudish in comparison and for well-known historical reasons, too.

Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by dspillett on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @08:26AM (#20685092)
UK. Not so much so here, so it certainly isn't universal. Though we don't usually have the weather for it anyway!
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by Asooka on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @09:33AM (#20685631)
UK is not Europe and shares a lot of values with puritanical USA. Culturally you're not really part of the mainland.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by sushid on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @12:54PM (#20687634)
Sounds like a classic case of No True Scotsman to me.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by jyrkesh on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @03:54PM (#20699309)
You'd have to explain more, given that he listed Spain, Portugal, France, the Netherlands, Greece, and others have listed more below. All of them true Scotsman where topless is totally a fair thing to see on any beach. Hell, I had a French ex who took her top off to tan when visiting the States and had to be told by friends that it wasn't an acceptable thing to do.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by ttsda on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @09:32AM (#20685625)
Portuguese, and can confirm it's absolutely normal in every single beach.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by gpderetta on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @07:59AM (#20684873)
Italy as well.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by elliekelly on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @08:57AM (#20685327)
I have been to Europe. And I’ve taken my bathing suit top off on several beaches there. In my experience they don’t really have “topless beaches” so much as they just have beaches.

If you re-read my comment you’ll see that my point of starting with nipples is precisely because they aren’t the adult content that Automattic is understandably interested in avoiding. Why are your nipples nbd while mine are adult content? That seems “pretty silly” if you ask me.

Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by tpush on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @08:06AM (#20684930)
There literally are beaches/sections of beaches in Germany where you have to be nude.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikörperkultur

Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by fluroblue on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @06:19AM (#20684249)
The man likes a good nipple. What ya gonna do.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by SkyBelow on Monday August 12, 2019 @05:55PM (#20680455)
>which could be seen by children on many beaches in Europe and even on the streets of Boston and New York City

Also seen by young children when they, ya know, eat.

Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by catwell on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @03:33AM (#20683570)
AFAIK "female presenting nipples" is banned from Apple's App Store in non-17+ apps. A huge company such as Facebook could maybe fight it, Automattic certainly can't.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @04:28AM (#20683789)
Wait, are you saying Apple actually does allow any kind of NSFW content in the app store?
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by yunruse on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @06:31AM (#20684323)
I mean… reddit’s app pretty clearly allows NSFW subreddits. You have to check a setting on the web to search for NSFW content, but that’s not actually in-app so it’s a-ok.
Re:Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic by rolltiide on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @09:18AM (#20685492)
Money talks bullshit walks

Rules aren't for moneyed interests, they are to ignore the masses, gatekeep more simply, “read the sign”