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Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by gondo on Monday August 12, 2019 @10:54AM (#20675940)
Is there any harm in choosing random number as your Social Security number? Since it is supposed to be secret how can anyone verify it? Apart from special situations like filling taxes where one would use the real SSN. I am not a US citizen and I have no idea what is the real life use of SSN.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by astura on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:37AM (#20676397)
Generally, knowingly and willfully giving false information to certain entities is fraud and is illegal. Especially when the form has you sign off that the information provided is correct to your knowledge under plenty of perjury.

Even if you gave a fake SSN to, say, a landlord (they need it to run a background and credit check on you and to better chase you down if you don't pay your rent) that would almost certainly be considered either fraud or theft by deception.

Generally, you provide the entity your SSN because they have a legitimate need to identity you, and that includes identifying you as you outside their internal system.

Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by moduspol on Monday August 12, 2019 @01:16PM (#20677528)
They aren't completely random, so you'd probably at least want to pick one from the expected prefixes list:

https://www.ssa.gov/employer/stateweb.htm

That leaves you with six digits to choose.

Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by Tushon on Monday August 12, 2019 @10:55AM (#20675953)
Insurance companies may request it for verification of the identity of patient.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by gondo on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:02AM (#20676014)
If you would provide the same, but still random, SSN to the insurance company and hospital, what that be a problem? How would they ever find out it is not your real SSN?
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by astura on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:51AM (#20676543)
First of all that would be insurance fraud, and it would be illegal.

Secondly, that wouldn't work, the insurance company already knows your SSN. If your insurance is provided through your employer your employer already gave it to your insurance company when they set up your benefits. You need to give your employer your real SSN to pay taxes. If your insurance is provided through the government (medicaid, medicare, tricare) then the government already knows your SSN. You BEST not be giving the government a fake SSN to collect benefits, that's all sorts of illegal.

Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by ryanlol on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @03:48AM (#20683635)
Is it fraud without the intent to defraud?

>Secondly, that wouldn't work, the insurance company already knows your SSN

It could totally work, it’s really easy to get a card open with another SSN and then accurint or whatever the insurance company uses will just return multiple SSNs.

Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by gondo on Monday August 12, 2019 @06:20PM (#20680685)
Thanks for the info. It seems like plenty of organizations legally know the SSN. I am amazed that US government considers SSN to be private.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by uxp on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:46AM (#20676489)
It really depends on how the SSN is used, but using a false SSN is considered fraud.

If the party requesting it is using it for billing and collections, and you fail to pay a bill and they send it to collections, and subsequently report the collection to a credit agency, then it is a clear case of fraud. If you randomly happen to pick a valid SSN, then you are committing identity theft in addition to fraud.

If they are just using it as a Unique ID, they may not ever know that it's fake. None-the-less it is still fraud.