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Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men by hombre_fatal on Monday August 12, 2019 @03:46AM (#20673360)
Steven Pinker pitches a convincing theory of how/why young men self-radicalize due to social exclusion that had me nodding along from my own personal experience. Made total sense and described exactly how I once was tempted to partake when I was younger.

I had no idea it was so controversial. Every time I've seen coverage of Pinker, his statements are completely taken out of context and he's spun as some sort of alt-right apologist. These are conversations we need to have.

(I first saw him talk about it in his sit-down with Sam Harris.)

Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men by bschne on Monday August 12, 2019 @07:53AM (#20674538)
Do you have a link / reference to that discussion?
Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men by 37 on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:48AM (#20674915)
Not OP, but here is a link to the Pinker-Harris talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGC3Vwaio0
Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men by Reedx on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:50AM (#20674933)
> his statements are completely taken out of context and he's spun as some sort of alt-right apologist.

This also happens a lot with Sam Harris, Joe Rogan and anyone who critiques or discusses certain topics. Even though they are obviously not remotely alt-right (indeed they're on the left). It's incredibly frustrating, self-defeating and has a dangerous chilling effect.

Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men by mieseratte on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:54AM (#20674962)
You can witness the same problems in this very thread.
Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men by foldr on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @06:23AM (#20684272)
>Sam Harris

Sam Harris has been consistently taking alt-right positions for the past few years (at least). I don't think it's unfair to associate him with the movement.

I think perhaps part of the issue is that lots of Americans who think of themselves as liberal, and who were shocked by the idea of Trump becoming President, actually agree with him on a lot of issues. So, yeah, Sam Harris still presents as an anti-Trump liberal. But if you look at what he's actually saying, he's much closer to Trump than he is to the liberal left. (His atheism is these days just a fig leaf for an anti-Islam stance.)