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Re:Python Is Eating the World by danielbarla on Monday August 12, 2019 @02:05AM (#20672846)
I'd also add that while perhaps a bit on the pessimistic side, I tend to view the 80 char rule / limit not as an ancient hardware limitation of monitors, but as a limitation of our eyes and visual processing circuitry. There is a reason why newspapers and well laid-out websites don't have 300 char width lines. Those are physically harder to read, whether we want to admit it or not, as our eyes lose track of the flow to the next line.

I'm all for decreasing unnecessary cognitive load, there should be quite enough of that without us adding more by accident.

Re:Python Is Eating the World by YokoZar on Monday August 12, 2019 @03:19AM (#20673194)
Why not take this reasoning one step further and have Hacker news impose an 80 character line wrap limit?

If you've ever had to deal with this in an email client, you can quickly see that 80 is undershooting it in the modern era.

Re:Python Is Eating the World by nesadi on Monday August 12, 2019 @04:32AM (#20673584)
Funny. I preferentially read HN on my phone which has probably what looks like around a 80 char limit. It makes it really comfortable to read.
Re:Python Is Eating the World by YokoZar on Tuesday August 13, 2019 @06:51AM (#20684433)
Do you do code reviews on your phone too?
Re:Python Is Eating the World by nesadi on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @05:37AM (#20693947)
Maybe I do. What's it to you?
Re:Python Is Eating the World by yawaramin on Monday August 12, 2019 @10:07PM (#20682166)
I don't understand–I quite enjoy reading a well-formatted plaintext email that sticks inside an 80-character line width. Any mail client worth its salt should be able to display that.
Re:Python Is Eating the World by TeMPOraL on Monday August 12, 2019 @03:39AM (#20673323)
> as a limitation of our eyes and visual processing circuitry.

If so, then why not put the limit on line length without trailing whitespace? Because it makes no sense that with indentation I should lose available characters.

> There is a reason why newspapers and well laid-out websites don't have 300 char width lines.

Yes, and the reason is, print and transportation are expensive, so newspapers found a way to cram as much text as possible in as few pages as possible. You don't see them replicating this style on-line, and neither you see it in magazines that are priced well above their production & distribution costs.

The reason "well laid-out websites" don't have 300 char width lines is because web development is one large cargo culting fest of design. 300 may be a bit much due to actual physical length, but your comment has 200+ on my machine and reads just fine.

I don't buy these "80 chars / short lines and ridiculous font sizes are optimal for the eyes" arguments. They fly in the face of my daily experience.