Re:Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
by brador on Saturday August 10, 2019 @01:23PM
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The UK and US have very different prison systems and prison protocols. I don't think their numbers can be compared.
Additionally, Epstein was under suicide watch. Which should have made suicide practically impossible without outside intervention. Given the money and power at play here, murder made to look like a suicide is a very real possibility.
Re:Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York
by DanBC on Saturday August 10, 2019 @01:26PM
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Please read the links I supply which talk about patients in a hospital, but importantly these are patients under "suicide watch" -- this is what intermittent or continuous obs are for, to prevent suicide and self harm.
People in this thread don't know what "suicide watch means". They seem to think it's 24 hour continuous monitoring.
It may mean someone looks through a door hatch once every 15 minutes.
But also, he may not have been on suicide watch: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-...
> Suicides between 23.00 h and 07.00 h are rare, and these overwhelmingly occur under intermittent observations. Such observation is purely a defensive intervention to document that a patient is safe at a particular time, as there is no engagement.
I work with anonymised data. If you want actual names I'm going to have to trawl through coroner's reports.
Or you could have a look at this, which says about 18 patients per year in the UK: https://documents.manchester.ac.uk/display.aspx?DocID=37570